The Official Comical-Keys-Robojo-Charlton-Guy Wager Thread!!!

[The Charlton Guy]

Soooory...I couldn't stop myself...:o

[ciorac]

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/the-charlton-guy/dock.jpg

#jester#

[AceVentura]

Why don't you start one? You seem to have a fair amount of time on your hands, money, and knowledge of grading and restoration. Sounds like a perfect situation.

Didn't I read though, that you are a doctor? So you may not have time. What type of medicine do you practice?


Already stated (I'm now convinced that nobody actually reads my posts):

"because it's nowhere near as profitable as buying and selling.
Anyone qualified is buying and selling and would be giving up counting hundred dollar bills to roll quarters"

[AceVentura]

Didn't I read though, that you are a doctor? So you may not have time. What type of medicine do you practice?

You tell me! I seem to know very little about myself compared to everyone else in this hobby's expertise on the subject of CK. There are people that claim to know where I am and what I'm doing at every given point in time.

[The Charlton Guy]

You are correct...I can see you now...

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/the-charlton-guy/po.jpg

Cooking frozen waffles in your toaster...
Letting out the cat...
Taking that really sweet copy of
Tales to Astonish #93 out of
the microwave oven...
Putting on your shoes one at a time...

[AceVentura]

You are correct...I can see you now...



http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/the-charlton-guy/po.jpg



Cooking frozen waffles in your toaster...
Letting out the cat...
Taking that really sweet copy of
Tales to Astonish #93 out of
the microwave oven...

Putting on your shoes one at a time...


:( I've got to move out of this glass house! :(

[bugsy]

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/the-charlton-guy/dock.jpg



CG that picture just isnt fair. You should have had my brothers Amazing Fantasy #15 showing instead.

[AceVentura]

CG that picture just isnt fair. You should have had my brothers Amazing Fantasy #15 showing instead.

The same one that was never sent to CGC for a DEFINITIVE judgement? That's the one he returned on a WHIM, isn't it? :roll:

[bugsy]

Oh is that the same CGC that you like to criticise, the same CGC that you say has evasive wording on their label. The comic was examined by John Pires who thought it was too short left to right and a scan was sent to a REAL expert in Tracy Heft who concluded it was trimmed down the right hand side. This comic has a configuration like no other Amazing Fantasy #15 ive ever seen. Explain to me why the last brown 'lump' is completely missing, explain to me why the building the single guy is standing on is half missing. Whats this copy supposed to be a 'building being demolished by bulldozer variant.' Finally, why is a man, sorry Doctor http://boards.collectors-society.com/images/graemlins/default/tongue.gif


(http://javascript<b></b>:void(0))who doesnt know what type of medicine he practices in, who is 'fixated on $$$$$$' sell a raw NM Amazing Fantasy #15 to an o'seas collector for $45,000 instead of sending it to CGC for a blue 9.4 poss 9.6 and then sell it on for thousands more. Gee i wonder why http://boards.collectors-society.com/images/graemlins/default/893scratchchin-thumb.gif
(http://javascript<b></b>:void(0))Possibly because he knew it was restored like all the other comics he sells.

[AceVentura]

Oh is that the same CGC that you like to criticise, the same CGC that you say has evasive wording on their label. The comic was examined by John Pires who thought it was too short left to right and a scan was sent to a REAL expert in Tracy Heft who concluded it was trimmed down the right hand side. This comic has a configuration like no other Amazing Fantasy #15 ive ever seen. Explain to me why the last brown 'lump' is completely missing, explain to me why the building the single guy is standing on is half missing. Whats this copy supposed to be a 'building being demolished by bulldozer variant.' Finally, why is a man, sorry Doctor http://boards.collectors-society.com/images/graemlins/default/tongue.gif




(http://javascript<b></b>:void(0))who doesnt know what type of medicine he practices in, who is 'fixated on $$$$$$' sell a raw NM Amazing Fantasy #15 to an o'seas collector for $45,000 instead of sending it to CGC for a blue 9.4 poss 9.6 and then sell it on for thousands more. Gee i wonder why http://boards.collectors-society.com/images/graemlins/default/893scratchchin-thumb.gif

(http://javascript<b></b>:void(0))Possibly because he knew it was restored like all the other comics he sells.

Compared to a SCAN of another AF#15??? THAT'S How this "expert" came up with this drivel?? Nothing like comparing scans to other scans and measuring them against each other to tell if a book is trimmed, right?

Do you think that's how CGC deduces trim? They hold up a book against a piece of paper with a SCAN of another book and completely eliminate examining the edge in question in person??

Bugsy, that's truly the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard coming from what I had at one time assumed was an adult. :D :D

Thank you for that horse-laugh!! #woohoo#

Does anyone else think that's a great way to determine trim?

[AceVentura]

This comic has a configuration like no other Amazing Fantasy #15 ive ever seen. Explain to me why the last brown 'lump' is completely missing, explain to me why the building the single guy is standing on is half missing. Whats this copy supposed to be a 'building being demolished by bulldozer variant

You mean sort of like THIS:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=250183698043&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=015

I wonder what Pires would have thought about the size of THIS book if it weren't slabbed, and I wonlder what heft would have thought about a scan of it, compared to these:

http://www.comiclink.com/./itemdetail.asp?back=%2Fcgcitems%2Easp%3Fid%3D4552% 26FROM%3D%26TO%3D&id=715457 (http://www.comiclink.com/./itemdetail.asp?back=&#37;2Fcgcitems%2Easp%3Fid%3D4552% 26FROM%3D%26TO%3D&id=715457)

http://www.comiclink.com/./itemdetail.asp?back=%2Fcgcitems%2Easp%3Fid%3D4552% 26FROM%3D%26TO%3D&id=715469

That 5.0 blue label sure doesn't have as much artwork showing on the right compared to the two Link CGC examples, does it now?

Is it possible that the manufacturer didn't FOLD all of them at the same point?? And THIS is why a comic SHOULD have its edges examined IN HAND to determine trim. Would you like me to point out post after post on message boards where hobbyists contend that it's near impossible to absolutely confirm trim by the way a book is folded or centered? What do you think?

[AceVentura]

Bugsy Blackmail, I'm curious about one thing. You keep referring to an email I sent you about a dealer standing behind a product. What you've conveniently omitted was our email exchange that LED UP TO that email I sent saying how a seller should stand behind his product.

You had confided in me as to how some seller had ripped you off unmercifully. He sold you scads of trimmed books, you stated. Now I will find this email, as I have all of them saved, even the ones from YOU from before Ilkin ever bought anything from me. This was an exchange of emails where you were trying to buy the AF #15 YOURSELF and were trying to pin me down to guaranteeing some kind of deal where I owed you a BONUS (what a coincidence) if you decided to return the book for any reason, which of course, I sensibly declined.

In other words, you not only wanted your purchase guaranteed, but the investment dollars you thought you SHOULD make guaranteed as well.

You went on to state how either one or a multiple of sellers had ripped you off with restored books and wouldn't make a refund. Do you happen to have THOSE emails?

I'm just curious as to just how many sellers you contend have "ripped you off", which was what prompted my email that you now use as your signature line, which had NOTHING to do with the AF#15 sold to ILKIN, not you, guaranteed only for the purchase price, and everything to do with your alleged claims of one seller ripping you off on 1 many books, or multiple sellers ripping you off on books.

WHo WAS/WERE these sellers or seller? What restored books did they sell you? Were THOSE books CGCed, or just determined to be altered by a whim, not submission to CGC?

[bugsy]

Oh my God, its less stressful talking to my Goldfish. For Christs sakes comic-crook when i say im busy that means i go to work, work for 7,8,9 or sometimes 10 hours and often continue with work related things when i come home. Basically i have a REAL job and and am completely knackered when i get home. Sometimes im so tired i dont bother going on the internet at all so when i do and i come here and read your posts(which is now becoming less and less frequent believe me) im hoping its something worthwhile. I'll answer your second post but the first one you should read again because i never said he compared a scan to another scan and the final one im not going to answer until you have answered some of the questions i have already asked.
O.K regarding the second post when i saw it i thought i would click on the links and see a copy of an Amazing Fantasy #15 thats is identical to the one you sold my brother below :-


http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/the-charlton-guy/15AFnmmt.jpg


I suppose the first link was close but no cigar because the brown 'lump' is still showing, partially admittedly, but its still there and the comics code authority is further away from the edge. In fact if you trimmed it down the right hand side to get rid of the chipping it would probably look like the one above. Im guessing that you are showing me the other 2 because you think they are trimmed. I dont know i dont have time to have a proper look, besides i asked you to find a copy of an exact match of the one above. Also you did note the price of what the 9.4 sold for? Impresssive yes. If a person is fixated on $$$$$ like yourself and has an AF #15 that has an excellent shot at a 9.4 why wouldnt they send it to CGC and im still waiting for you to send me scans of the ASM #1,19 and 34. Make sure they are nice large scans not titchy little things. Also apart from a Doctor of trimming what else are you a Doctor of?


You mean sort of like THIS:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=250183698043&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=015 (http://ads.auctionads.com/pagead/link_16ab40a37249e63306c1_ccd9e6a8c4079976fcc759fb 09b0475e_http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=250183698043&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=015)

I wonder what Pires would have thought about the size of THIS book if it weren't slabbed, and I wonlder what heft would have thought about a scan of it, compared to these:

http://www.comiclink.com/./itemdetail.asp?back=%2Fcgcitems%2Easp%3Fid%3D4552% 26FROM%3D%26TO%3D&id=715457

http://www.comiclink.com/./itemdetail.asp?back=%2Fcgcitems%2Easp%3Fid%3D4552% 26FROM%3D%26TO%3D&id=715469

That 5.0 blue label sure doesn't have as much artwork showing on the right compared to the two Link CGC examples, does it now?

Is it possible that the manufacturer didn't FOLD all of them at the same point?? And THIS is why a comic SHOULD have its edges examined IN HAND to determine trim. Would you like me to point out post after post on message boards where hobbyists contend that it's near impossible to absolutely confirm trim by the way a book is folded or centered? What do you think?

[bugsy]

Oh by the way comic-crook it was you that started this thread wasnt it:-

http://forum.stlcomics.com/viewtopic.php?t=1571&highlight=trimmed

Thats funny i didnt think you could tell a books been trimmed from a scan. Just in case the link doesnt work here is part of what he said:-



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(http://forum.stlcomics.com/viewtopic.php?p=16164#16164)Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 11:52 pm Post subject: CGC graded this HORRIBLY right edge trimmed ...http://forum.stlcomics.com/templates/subSilver/images/lang_english/icon_quote.gif


(http://forum.stlcomics.com/posting.php?mode=quote&p=16164)Spiderman 1 a BLUE LABEL????????? http://forum.stlcomics.com/images/smiles/laughing.gif



http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=32739&item=6536930299&rd=1 (http://ads.auctionads.com/pagead/link_16ab40a37249e63306c1_ccd9e6a8c4079976fcc759fb 09b0475e_http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=32739&item=6536930299&rd=1)

The book's BARELY 6 and a half inches wide!!!!! Which is AT LEAST 1/8th of an inch NARROWER than the average TRIMMED copy!!! (Normal tolerances are 6 and 5/8ths to 6 and 7/8ths for this book, and that's ALOT of lee-way)



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This is the smallest Spiderman 1 I've EVER seen. Raw, purple holdered, or blue holdered. It took ALOT of balls to cut a Spiderman 1 THIS narrow, and even MORE balls to grade it BLUE!!!! http://forum.stlcomics.com/images/smiles/poop.gif



Nice going guys. Here's a friendly tip. When the book is wrapped with the spine line right on the fold or thereabouts, it looks RIDICULOUS when there's no space to the right of the quotes in the green strip. RIDICULOUS!!!!!!



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But not as ridiculous as an Amazing Fantasy #15 with the lower speech
balloon right on the edge of the spine with the brown 'lump' on the right completely missing.

[AceVentura]

Oh by the way comic-crook it was you that started this thread wasnt it:-

http://forum.stlcomics.com/viewtopic.php?t=1571&highlight=trimmed

Thats funny i didnt think you could tell a books been trimmed from a scan. Just in case the link doesnt work here is part of what he said:-



I can't see the thread. I'm banned from that Forum, as you know. And from scans, I (not you and most others who randomly point and accuse) can make an educated, experienced guess at which books have a good liklelyhood of being trimmed.

Unfortunatley, size alone, and the way it's folded are not absolutely foolproof indicators of this UNLESS YOU HAVE THE BOOK IN HAND. The scan will earmark books that are good candidates to be trimmed and should bear further examination, but that examination to positively ID a trimmed book should be conducted IN HAND.



Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 11:52 pm Post subject: CGC graded this HORRIBLY right edge trimmed ...http://forum.stlcomics.com/templates/subSilver/images/lang_english/icon_quote.gif






(http://forum.stlcomics.com/posting.php?mode=quote&p=16164)Spiderman 1 a BLUE LABEL????????? http://forum.stlcomics.com/images/smiles/laughing.gif





http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=32739&item=6536930299&rd=1 (http://ads.auctionads.com/pagead/link_16ab40a37249e63306c1_ccd9e6a8c4079976fcc759fb 09b0475e_http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=32739&item=6536930299&rd=1)

The book's BARELY 6 and a half inches wide!!!!! Which is AT LEAST 1/8th of an inch NARROWER than the average TRIMMED copy!!! (Normal tolerances are 6 and 5/8ths to 6 and 7/8ths for this book, and that's ALOT of lee-way)



The actual ruler measurements of the AF 15 sold to Ilkin (without the bump), and I just happen to have a scan of the book with a standard ruler laid across it, was 6 and THREE QUARTERS INCHES, WELL within that I consider normal Marvel production tolerances





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But not as ridiculous as an Amazing Fantasy #15 with the lower speech
balloon right on the edge of the spine with the brown 'lump' on the right completely missing.

No where's near as ridiculous, criminal, or scamtastic as your blackmail notes. I've seen other untrimmed AF 15s without a brown "bump".
Based on left to right centering and the amount of page protrusion on ILKIN's copy, the one I just linked on Ebay, taking into consideration where the 12 cent ring is at the spine is definitely, physically SMALLER left to right. My guess is about 6 and 5/8ths for the Ebay copy and a definitely measured 6 and 3/4 inches for Ilkin's copy, which is NORMAL SIZE for Marvel production tolerances.

#allhailme#

[AceVentura]

http://cgi.ebay.com/DC-comic-Showcase-22-Green-Lantern-CGC-7-0-restored_W0QQitemZ260182025481QQihZ016QQcategoryZ7 6QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD4VQQcmdZViewItem

Here's a restored CGC graded Showcase 22 with the top of the logo letters and comics code cut off. I've NEVER seen one this high centered, and yet CGC didn't find trim on it.

MOST hobbyists seeing a scan of this book unslabbed, would be screaming bloody murder if this wasn't CGCed without trim notation.

[stupidman]

Someday, again, we can only hope...
since CG and Hoss (?)have been brain-washed...
this will probably be the only way to rid this Board of him...
http://members.aol.com/catmanstu/comickeys.jpg

[AceVentura]

Someday, again, we can only hope...
since CG and Hoss (?)have been brain-washed...
this will probably be the only way to rid this Board of him...




http://members.aol.com/catmanstu/comickeys.jpg





Just out of curiosity, what is he wanted for? Are you offering a reward? And what are we, as concerned citizens, supposed to if we spot him? Report immediately to you? Dial 912, the comic police? Inform Old Guy that there was a DD sighting?

You know, it's really a shame that you weren't investigating and fixated on that Crastree guy. The comic seller that trims people. Maybe if you were scrutinizing that comic seller with 1/10th the spotlight as you try to shine on CK, who you keep erroneously inferring is DD, although government records prove that CK/Richard Koos and Fantazia/DD are NOT the same person, THAT comic seller would have trimmed one less little girl!

But then again, that's nowhere NEAR the crime you continually accuse others of around here with your morbid, erroneous fixation! But what the hell? I'll help you find him, since you seem to be searching high and low for him as though you have a DD fetish at this point.

If you see this man, please call 912 (the comic police) immediately:

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/comickeys/DD.jpg

You should check the Big Apple show this weekend. Maybe DD will be there selling the remainder of those trimmed Golden age books that Eides passed on.

[AceVentura]

Someday, again, we can only hope...
since CG and Hoss (?)have been brain-washed...
this will probably be the only way to rid this Board of him...

http://members.aol.com/catmanstu/comickeys.jpg


I've got nothing more to add. Just thought it might be nice to post DD's picture again, in case someone might spot him round and about. Can't be too careful these days!


:)

[AceVentura]

http://members.aol.com/catmanstu/comickeys.jpg


And again! #allhailme#

[AceVentura]

http://members.aol.com/catmanstu/comickeys.jpg





And one mo' time. This time like you MEAN it!!!

#allhailme##allhailme##allhailme#

Seriously now! I'm offering a $50 CK gift certificate for information leading to his capture! #woohoo#

[AceVentura]

Don't forget! It's THIS guy:http://members.aol.com/catmanstu/comickeys.jpg

[AceVentura]

And with the unveiling of secret weapon X, my awe-inspiring, hypnotic "stealth-moose" avatar, a strange and eerie hush prevails over the restoration section of this hallowed forum! :)

[The Charlton Guy]

It is a strange and eerie vision...:roll:

[ciorac]

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And one mo' time. This time like you MEAN it!!!

#allhailme##allhailme##allhailme#

Seriously now! I'm offering a $50 CK gift certificate for information leading to his capture! #woohoo#

Cool! So, if you let me stop by your house I can get the $50? That would be awesome!

Just because Koos and DD are different people doesn't mean that you didn't assume the identity of Koos, with or without his permission. My guess would be with.

The evidence seems to indicate that Koos and DD are one and the same. I really don't care either way, but I would like the $50.:p

[AceVentura]

Cool! So, if you let me stop by your house I can get the $50? That would be awesome!

Just because Koos and DD are different people doesn't mean that you didn't assume the identity of Koos, with or without his permission. My guess would be with.

The evidence seems to indicate that Koos and DD are one and the same. I really don't care either way, but I would like the $50.:p

Wait a minute! You're actually ADMITTINGY that Koos and DD are two different people?? You're the first one that's ever admitted that logical fact.

And once again, since I'm being consistantly referred to as DD, I must clarify by mentioning myself in the second party.

[The Charlton Guy]

"I keep on tellin' you people..."

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/the-charlton-guy/image683887x.jpg

"If the glove does not fit the exacto,
you must step backto!"





"Cripes, that rhyme sucks..."
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"Hey Judge? Can I go to the bathroom?"
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[mordo]

Ace, have you ever directly responded to the charges in Old Guy's website?

[AceVentura]

Ace, have you ever directly responded to the charges in Old Guy's website?

Sure. I've responded to EVERYBODY'S charges, for all the good it's done, which is none at all.

Ironically, I'm charged with willful intent for the same thing that thousands of raw sellers have done for decades. Unintentionally selling a book with non-disclosed resto, when none was known of.

Unlike everybody else, if resto was found and CK was told, I made good on it.

Unlike everybody else, NONE of the books having found resto were ever offered again as unrestored. I see this on Ebay consistantly.

Unlike most, NO link whatsoever was ever made connecting CK with a book that was proven to be unrestored before CK transacted it and later turning up with resto. I see this on Ebay AND other sites, consistantly.

The percentage of books that were returned with non-disclosed work was less than 1% of the total number of books transacted in approx. a 6 year period.

A remarkably LOW return rate by comparison to ALL other sellers when the TYPE of books being sold are taken into consideration. The type of books in the highest percentile rank having the POSSIBILITY of nonpdisclosed work due to their VALUE.

This is never taken into consideration when these charges are made. I hear things like, "oh, I know of 20 people that got a restored book", or various things along these lines.

When you're an ice road trucker, operating MASSIVE loads over the most treacherous roads in the worst possible conditions, out of every 100 runs, you can expect maybe 10 problems. That doesn't mean the guy is a bad driver or is careless.

Another trucker could make 100 runs on dry roads in the mid-west under the best conditions, hauling light loads and NEVER have a mishap. That doesn't mean he's a better driver.

It's alot easier to avoid selling a book with non-disclosed resto if you're selling raw $5.00 books where the chances are VERY, VERY low that soemone is going to waste hours with meticulously crafted work that hides from sight effectively.

When you see resto on a $5.00 book, it's usually real obvious stuff.

Try examining exclusively $500 to $25,000 books on a daily basis and finding EVERYTHING that someone has taken great pains to hide because of the financial incentive.

I don't know if anybody realizes or even understands this.

There SHOULDN'T BE any charges or persecution on Old Guy's sight because there's absolutely no proof that books with nondisclosed resto were transacted intentionally. None.

It's a 7 year witch-hunt that's lead nowhere and never will.

[UnlimitedRealities]

Well, it's probably the moose, but for what little it's worth, I'm inclined to believe you.

Just curious- what kind of volume were you doing then?

[mordo]

Ace, I appreciate the reply, but I guess I should have been more specific. The first thing you see when you click on OG's website is a scanned document that makes the claim you and Robojo33 have the same address. There is also a link on the same page that leads to a reprint of the lengthy CBG article that ties together you and D. Dupcak via your mailing addresses. The conclusion I think the average person would draw is you, Robojo33, and Dupcak are one and the same.

I know you've denied being either person throughout this forum. If you aren't Robojo33 or Dupcak, how do you explain the identical mailing addresses? :confused:

[AceVentura]

Ace, I appreciate the reply, but I guess I should have been more specific. The first thing you see when you click on OG's website is a scanned document that makes the claim you and Robojo33 have the same address. There is also a link on the same page that leads to a reprint of the lengthy CBG article that ties together you and D. Dupcak via your mailing addresses. The conclusion I think the average person would draw is you, Robojo33, and Dupcak are one and the same.

I know you've denied being either person throughout this forum. If you aren't Robojo33 or Dupcak, how do you explain the identical mailing addresses? :confused:

Robojo33 CAN'T possibly be DD. That's like comparing the Virgin Mary to a strumpet, right?

What do we know about DD? Suffice it to say, evil incarnate.

What do we know about Robojo33? Not much I suppose, compared to what we know of DD, but one factor completely eliminates any possible connection between the sellers being the same.

Robojo33 is clean. How clean? SQUEAKY CLEAN. So clean that if you threw his books all up in the air on a stormy day, they'd come down pure sunshine. THAT clean. And his business practices are too. No shady deals, no non-disclosure, etc., etc., etc..

And do you know how we KNOW this to be true? Because since July, Robo has been the subject of INTENSE scrutiny.

DD should be 1/1000th as pure as Robojo33. If DD is selling comics somewhere, and doing it 1/2 as honestly and trustworthy as Robo, then he's a Saint!

DD can't possibly be Robo. Lepers and leopards don't change their spots.

[AceVentura]

Well, it's probably the moose, but for what little it's worth, I'm inclined to believe you.

Just curious- what kind of volume were you doing then?

Enough that what came back to me with non-disclosed resto was just slightly less than 1&#37;, which I felt was miraculous and something to be applauded for rather than persecuted for.

None that ever came back purple labeled were ever offered again as unrestored. Every book that came back was cracked out and examined. A number of them I did NOT agree with and even though, I DID NOT offer the same book unrestored because I did not want to risk a repeat performance with the same book if CGC' resto radar was being triggered by a false positive.

Let's not forget. There's at least a dozen CGC forum members and who knows who else with an unabridged library of my auction scans that were constantly being compared.

At least once a day, I'd get an email, "Is this the same XXX that you auctioned on XXX? It looks the same! You're a crook! What happened? The buyer fond out it was restored and returned it? And now you'retrying to scam someone else, you so and so..."

I'd fire up the Vendio page, email the sender of that nonsense BOTH images and explain, "Not the same book. Look at the centering. Look at the staple position. Look at this dot and that dot, etc.".

For the last 5 years on Ebay, CK was under the microscope. I knew this. I'm dumb enough to make intentional "mistakes" with the whole hobby watching? Come on!!

If CGC said "trimmed", I relisted on Ebay or resold it off ebay as "trimmed". If I thought it wasn't, I'd still sell it as "trimmed", with a footnote that I disagree, if that was the case on a particular book.

That's why no buyer that had to return a book for non-disclosed resto EVER reported to anyone seeing CK re-offer a book as unrestored that was taken back and refunded upon as restored. It just didn't happen.

This is why I always contend that there is no solid evidence whatsoever to indicate that any books CK has had returned is anything but a mistake or difference of opinion.

There's just the weight of the NUMBER of returns, which when you consider the weight of the number of BOOKS, and the nature of those (high grade raw books), the number of returns is FAR less cumbersome than anyone can imagine. Slightly less than 1%.

These are the things very few have considered.

[ciorac]

Robojo33 CAN'T possibly be DD. That's like comparing the Virgin Mary to a strumpet, right?

What do we know about DD? Suffice it to say, evil incarnate.

What do we know about Robojo33? Not much I suppose, compared to what we know of DD, but one factor completely eliminates any possible connection between the sellers being the same.

Robojo33 is clean. How clean? SQUEAKY CLEAN. So clean that if you threw his books all up in the air on a stormy day, they'd come down pure sunshine. THAT clean. And his business practices are too. No shady deals, no non-disclosure, etc., etc., etc..

And do you know how we KNOW this to be true? Because since July, Robo has been the subject of INTENSE scrutiny.

DD should be 1/1000th as pure as Robojo33. If DD is selling comics somewhere, and doing it 1/2 as honestly and trustworthy as Robo, then he's a Saint!

DD can't possibly be Robo. Lepers and leopards don't change their spots.

But what about the address????

Are you running a comic book sellers hostel out of your house?

[mordo]

DD can't possibly be Robo. Lepers and leopards don't change their spots.

"Lepers and leopards don't change their spots." That is an interesting statement. If you are the leper or leopard, and lepers and leopards don't change their spots, then you know why everyone distrusts you and seems to have a collective obsession over your current activities. You brought up O.J. Simpson's name in a different thread. I think you are somewhat like the O.J. of the comics community. Of course you didn't murder anyone, but as the leper (Dupcak) you more or less robbed people during the 1980's and 1990's.

Also, I think an innocent man would have sued the hell out of CBG if they wrote that kind of article and it were not true. As far as I know you have not taken any legal action towards them. What are we to assume except that what they documented is true? :confused:

Look, you seem like a nice guy. You are clearly super intelligent and have a lot of industry and hobby knowledge. Hell, you helped bust Ewert. Personally, it makes no difference to me if you are Dupcak. I think everyone deserves a second chance. You should just be honest and put everything on the table. Whaddaya say? :)

[AceVentura]

"Lepers and leopards don't change their spots." That is an interesting statement. If you are the leper or leopard, and lepers and leopards don't change their spots, then you know why everyone distrusts you and seems to have a collective obsession over your current activities. You brought up O.J. Simpson's name in a different thread. I think you are somewhat like the O.J. of the comics community. Of course you didn't murder anyone, but as the leper (Dupcak) you more or less robbed people during the 1980's and 1990's.

Also, I think an innocent man would have sued the hell out of CBG if they wrote that kind of article and it were not true. As far as I know you have not taken any legal action towards them. What are we to assume except that what they documented is true? :confused:

Look, you seem like a nice guy. You are clearly super intelligent and have a lot of industry and hobby knowledge. Hell, you helped bust Ewert. Personally, it makes no difference to me if you are Dupcak. I think everyone deserves a second chance. You should just be honest and put everything on the table. Whaddaya say? :)

Sue them for what? Nothing that Old Guy has on his site has hurt me! That's the plain and simple truth. I've got to somehow PROVE not just that CK/RK isn't DD (THAT'S any easy one to prove), but to win a damage suit, I have to prove that in some way my business, my sales had been IMPACTED by Old Guy's site (That's IMPOSSIBLE to prove).

It's GOOD that some people discovered resto on their books that I sold them due to Old Guy's site. Not bad. I would NEVER complain that because of Old Guy, someone who bought a book from me that turned out to have undiscovered resto was submitted and ferreted out and I had to make a refund. That's not damages. That's a GOOD thing!! I mean it.

One thing Old Guy's site has done is keep me super honest. Let's think about this. Old guy basically says, "If you bought raw from CK, check them out". So, I knew that my books would be under the microscope more than ANY OTHER RAW SELLER with a site like that up and running, and out of everybody that went running for their CK purchases to have them checked, in the scheme of things VERY few has a problem.

There's about a dozen or so books listed there as testimonials from maybe 8 or so buyers, and admittedly, that's at least less than a THIRD of those existing that DIDN'T submit testimonials. As I said, 24 buyers, 36 to 50 books is a very very smal number when you consider the total number of books I transacted over 6 years. I had over 1800 feedbacks on Ebay alone! And that's just ONE account and not counting off-ebay sales and others whom sold books for me. The returns for resto are less than 1&#37; of the total amount of raw books moved according to my selling logs.

If Old guy ran a warning site on any other seller that was known to have transacted at least 5 "unrestored" books that turned out to be restored, and buyers went scampering for their books from THAT seller (I can think of about 12 sellers off-hand), my returns would PALE before the rest.

Also, Old Guy's site is a testimony to the fact that if my buyer encounters a problem, CK always stood behind the product, regardless of the time elapsed (unless the buyer didn't notify me).

I had MANY buyers who had read Old Guy's site and STILL bid my books on Ebay consistantly. They're atitude was, "sh*t happens with raw books and of all the douc*e bags out there that sell you something defective then turn their back on you and tell you "sorry, bub. no refunds", or just yes you to death, I know that YOU (CK) will stand up behind your product.

I don't view Old Guy's site as having hurt me at all businesswise. For everybody who WOULDN'T bid CK auctions after reading it, there were 2 who would after they read how I refunded Harry $28,000 after 3 years and he never expected it!

Also, in the real world, people usually get second chances. But this hobby isn't the real world, and if you took a poll, I'm sure DD would come in third, right behind Hitler and Eichmann in a popularity poll. DD would NEVER get a second chance in this hobby, whether he deserves one or not, and that's probably why after Fantazia, that was all she wrote.

[ciorac]

"Lepers and leopards don't change their spots." That is an interesting statement. If you are the leper or leopard, and lepers and leopards don't change their spots, then you know why everyone distrusts you and seems to have a collective obsession over your current activities. You brought up O.J. Simpson's name in a different thread. I think you are somewhat like the O.J. of the comics community. Of course you didn't murder anyone, but as the leper (Dupcak) you more or less robbed people during the 1980's and 1990's.

Also, I think an innocent man would have sued the hell out of CBG if they wrote that kind of article and it were not true. As far as I know you have not taken any legal action towards them. What are we to assume except that what they documented is true? :confused:

Look, you seem like a nice guy. You are clearly super intelligent and have a lot of industry and hobby knowledge. Hell, you helped bust Ewert. Personally, it makes no difference to me if you are Dupcak. I think everyone deserves a second chance. You should just be honest and put everything on the table. Whaddaya say? :)

Keys,

Mordo is right. Just come clean. You would be surprised at how much respect is given to those who confess and express contrition.

You've tried everything else, try honesty.

I noticed you hopscotched over the address thing.

A while back I asked you why you don't just open your own grading and restoration detection business, you said you are making too much money selling to take on something like that.

Selling? As whom? Doesn't look like Keys has sold much of anything lately. But, robo has....

So just stop it, please. The cat and mouse game grows tiresome.

Come clean and let's all be friends and have a ball talking about comics. Apparently you find a ton of stuff, trust me, comic collectors will buy from the devil himself if he has the goods.

You really have nothing to lose and much to gain.

[The Charlton Guy]

Keys,

Mordo is right. Just come clean. You would be surprised at how much respect is given to those who confess and express contrition.

You've tried everything else, try honesty.

I noticed you hopscotched over the address thing.

A while back I asked you why you don't just open your own grading and restoration detection business, you said you are making too much money selling to take on something like that.

Selling? As whom? Doesn't look like Keys has sold much of anything lately. But, robo has....

So just stop it, please. The cat and mouse game grows tiresome.

Come clean and let's all be friends and have a ball talking about comics. Apparently you find a ton of stuff, trust me, comic collectors will buy from the devil himself if he has the goods.

You really have nothing to lose and much to gain.

Thanks Ciorac. Best damn post yet.

Ace, I agree. Stop with the cat and mouse, set the record straight, and I will be willing to bet (here I go wagering again), that Ciorac is correct. On all points.

[AceVentura]

The one thing I agree with most here is that, under normal circumstances, WHOM the seller is, should be secondary to the product sold or information shared. But DD isn't nromal circumstances.

People didn't get 1/100th as upset over a comic dealer trimming a little girl as they are with the remote prospect of DD selling a comic! And that's a fact. The hobby moral outrage against DD for his conviction in autograph memorabilia and whatever is attributed to him in comics, and the hobby moral sense of outrage against CK for unknowingly selling something that was returned purple or IMAGINED restored, something that happens every week to probably hundreds of sellers and buyers worldwide (even though rectified when that occured) is on a level way beyond public moral outrage for murderers, rapists, and child abusers.

The hobby hatred of DD is so widespread and prevalent, even as to make anyone construed as being even remotely connected, even more than once removed to DD automatically GUILTY by association, that I can well understand why after Fantazia and his store in LI closed, he most likely hung up his collectible trading shoes and moved on.

[ciorac]

The one thing I agree with most here is that, under normal circumstances, WHOM the seller is, should be secondary to the product sold or information shared. But DD isn't nromal circumstances.

People didn't get 1/100th as upset over a comic dealer trimming a little girl as they are with the remote prospect of DD selling a comic! And that's a fact. The hobby moral outrage against DD for his conviction in autograph memorabilia and whatever is attributed to him in comics, and the hobby moral sense of outrage against CK for unknowingly selling something that was returned purple or IMAGINED restored, something that happens every week to probably hundreds of sellers and buyers worldwide (even though rectified when that occured) is on a level way beyond public moral outrage for murderers, rapists, and child abusers.

The hobby hatred of DD is so widespread and prevalent, even as to make anyone construed as being even remotely connected, even more than once removed to DD automatically GUILTY by association, that I can well understand why after Fantazia and his store in LI closed, he most likely hung up his collectible trading shoes and moved on.

Nah! Now you are just being melodramatic. DD is kind of a cult hero now. Come on out and bask in the glow of your celebrity. I'll even be your first customer if you do.

Just promise to sell me something mid-grade, golden age, with no trimming. Resto is fine.

[stupidman]

You'll never get a straight answer on the address question. I love how he plays dumb with the booking pic of DD/RK, too. Protesting way too much, Ophelia!

[AceVentura]

You'll never get a straight answer on the address question. I love how he plays dumb with the booking pic of DD/RK, too. Protesting way too much, Ophelia!

So you maintain that this booking picture is RK? NOT DD????:

http://members.aol.com/catmanstu/comickeys.jpg

How is that possible? RK/CK (I) am not mentioned ANYWHERE in connection to the events that culminated in that booking picture. You mean to say that the Nassau prosecutor's office and the grand jury FORGOT to include Richard Koos in the Wall of Fame/autograph proceedings?

You're publically maintaining that Richard Koos/Comic-Keys was involved in some way in the Wall of Fame case along with DD and Glen Beram?

Is that what you're stating, Nancy?

[paul a]

You'll never get a straight answer on the address question. I love how he plays dumb with the booking pic of DD/RK, too. Protesting way too much, Ophelia!
richard koos is 70+ ,6foot+,big baby huey gut, ex-pro bowler ,with blue eyes to die for and ma DUPCAK's live in boy friend (?) they have seperate bedrooms. koos is not DANNY DUPCAK but ,DANNY DUPCAK is sometimes koos. clear ?#oldie#

[AceVentura]

No comment, out of respect to Hoss, CG, and the house.

[mordo]

http://s201.photobucket.com/albums/aa177/Scott_Cuva/

Ace, you should refrain from playing around with the quotes function otherwise everyone else is going to start doing it too. :(

[AceVentura]

No comment, out of respect to Hoss, CG, and the house.

[mordo]

Geez... Look, I edited my last post. You are now Ace Ventura again!

[AceVentura]

richard koos is 70+ ,6foot+,big baby huey gut, ex-pro bowler ,with blue eyes to die for and ma DUPCAK's live in boy friend (?) they have seperate bedrooms. koos is not DANNY DUPCAK but ,DANNY DUPCAK is sometimes koos. clear ?#oldie#

Hey Hoss and CG, "separate bedrooms"?? "Baby Huey Gut"? I have no idea WHERE Paul is getting this kind of information from, but does any of this have any forum pertanance? Or is it just an unspoken double standard, which given the angst against DD and it's projection to me, I do understand. Curious? :confused:

[The Charlton Guy]

To be quite honest, that post makes little or no sense to me, and could be construed on a number of different levels.

Paul A. seems to have a rather unique posting style that I am still attempting to wade through.

He has made a couple of interesting points though (especially regarding that Hulk #1).

Like you have told me on several occasions, we both expect that people will come on Board to confront you.

I have warned Paul A. to keep it civil. I expect that he will. As long as he does, and you continue to reply in similar fashion, I don't see any difficulties arising.

[AceVentura]

To be quite honest, that post makes little or no sense to me, and could be construed on a number of different levels.

Paul A. seems to have a rather unique posting style that I am still attempting to wade through.

He has made a couple of interesting points though (especially regarding that Hulk #1).

Like you have told me on several occasions, we both expect that people will come on Board to confront you.

I have warned Paul A. to keep it civil. I expect that he will. As long as he does, and you continue to reply in similar fashion, I don't see any difficulties arising.

A very uniquely familiar posting style. :D

[AceVentura]

richard koos is 70+ ,6foot+,big baby huey gut, ex-pro bowler ,with blue eyes to die for and ma DUPCAK's live in boy friend (?) they have seperate bedrooms. koos is not DANNY DUPCAK but ,DANNY DUPCAK is sometimes koos. clear ?#oldie#

And how would you know ANY of this, Paul? So you really pretend to know what goes on inside my home?

#shehulk#

[paul a]

[quote=AceVentura;26469]And how would you know ANY of this, Paul? So you really pretend to know what goes on inside my home?

"I'm nobody in the Wonderland of Knowledge but quite desperate to get somewhere within it .With a child like question mark I seek clarification and answers that illuminate. If I'm feeling restless I might demand an explanation." "curiouser and curiouser" courtesy of amy d and lewis carrol #woohoo##woohoo##woohoo##woohoo##woohoo##woohoo#"MY HOME"???????????????????????? I was talking about DANNY DUPCAK'S home ,ace ! NOT YOURS. you seem confused . i am on your ass like a duck on a june bug . look over your shoulder , little boy ! remember that big thing you thought was going down on DANNY DUPCAK? well as always, you were right .this time it's gonna be a little more than the pistol whipping i gave you on 8/20. tell me DANNY DUPCAK, why were KOOS and MA DUPCAK at TODD'S store on 10/27/07? were they picking up payment on the heavily restored tec 27 and the other 70 doctored books or trying to sucker todd into buying more of your leftover FANTAZIA crap that the authorities didn't seize because they knew it was doctored or you just got it out in time . af 15 and hulk 1 ,yeah that was the cream of your goods. hey look at the classic FANTAZIA photo. can some one post it please. i think i remember now. there's todd's copy third row down second on the left. a little small but cut real nice. can't believe i couldn't push that bitch. o wait, i did push a bitch a long time ago, just not that one. must have been destiny for me to bounce that book on todd for $150,000.00. the $100,000.00 for the other 70 books didn't hurt much either. i am concerned about the word on the street that don geppi has put a hit out on me. got to have my mob guys talk to his mob guys and get this straightened out . it's not like he can't pull the right strings at cgc and heritage and we can all be as happy as pigs in shit. on a more civil note ,why don't you post a bunch of links to unrestored hulk1's so we can compare them to the HACKED copy you/ace/robo/keys/hammer/DANNY S. DUPCAK/whatever the hell you want to call yourself, are currently selling with undisclosed trimming.

[stupidman]

richard koos is 70+ ,6foot+,big baby huey gut, ex-pro bowler ,with blue eyes to die for and ma DUPCAK's live in boy friend (?) they have seperate bedrooms. koos is not DANNY DUPCAK but ,DANNY DUPCAK is sometimes koos. clear ?#oldie#

Exactly. I've never said Koos and Dupak/Dupcheck/Dupek are the same person. Anybody who's read OldGuy's site and the CBG facts would know this. Just another misdirection on CK's part.

BTW that wasn't event he address I was talking about... but CK knew that.

[stupidman]

No comment, out of respect to Hoss, CG, and the house.

Pussy.

[AceVentura]

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[AceVentura]

Pussy.

Because I promised CG that I wouldn't? You WOULD think that, right?

[AceVentura]

Exactly. I've never said Koos and Dupak/Dupcheck/Dupek are the same person. Anybody who's read OldGuy's site and the CBG facts would know this. Just another misdirection on CK's part.

BTW that wasn't event he address I was talking about... but CK knew that.

Oh, there's no misdirection. You're just easily confused. :confused:

[paul a]

Pussy.
please upgrade your danny dupcak photo to the blonde edgier dd. that is how he looked on9/29/07. he is now 54 but looks younger than his 97 mug shot. money,botox and plastic surgery can do wonders but it has left his face kind of motionless and unexpressive. there is this kind of blonde/orange new born baby fuzz on the top and way back on the sides of his big ass inbred,light bulb,woody harelson,payton manning,charlie brown head.has transparent light hazel/honey brown eyes. about 5ft 9 175 trim frame and apparently not as musceled as hammer. probably quite the roids and/or working out.clear complexion,nose same as 97. old guy should post new with the old.every dealer ,collector and shop needs to know what he looks like.

[AceVentura]

that big thing you thought was going down on DANNY DUPCAK? well as always, you were right .this time it's gonna be a little more than the pistol whipping i gave you on 8/20.

I'm sure DD will thank you for the warning. Coincidentally, I've learned that DD was set up for a hit in his store on or about 8/20 and pistol whipped at gunpoint! I'm told that there is a complete police report on it. I'm also told that they never got the 3, 4, or 5 gun wielding thugs so my guess is that the case is unsolved, but still on record. The only one who would know what you state is the one wh either set it up or perpetrated it. So it's fairly dumb of you to admit that you were responsible. Given this admission/confession, I'm sure that someone will be motivated to investigate your terroristic claims, which I'm told are dead on, and once the forum is properly contacted for your IP and email address, I'm sure the truth behind this admission of guilt in a pistol whipping/attempted murder, and new promise you've made of finishing the job (you're inferred another attempted murder right here on this public forum and were quite clear on your intentions, a big, big mistake) will be known.


tell me DANNY DUPCAK, why were KOOS and MA DUPCAK at TODD'S store on 10/27/07? were they picking up payment on the heavily restored tec 27 and the other 70 doctored books or trying to sucker todd into buying more of your leftover FANTAZIA crap, yatta, yatta, yatta....

The name's Koos. First YOU stated that you were DD, and sold the books to Todd. Then you're NOT DD and I am, but DD did the sale nonetheless, and now either I or DD or both of us was/were in Pennsylvania on 10/27 along with Ma Dupcak to pick up money? You really are quite deranged, aren't you, "Paul"? I can understand your befuddlement. Look at how you botched your 8/20 hit. The police showed up too fast, I hear.


hey look at the classic FANTAZIA photo. can some one post it please. i think i remember now. there's todd's copy third row down second on the left. a little small but cut real nice. can't believe i couldn't push that bitch. o wait, i did push a bitch a long time ago, just not that one. must have been destiny for me to bounce that book on todd for

Yeah! You can see all the fine details to identify specific Det 27s in a "1000 yard squint" photo.


$150,000.00.

That's exactly the same amount that Jan tried to extort from DD! Another coincidence?


the $100,000.00 for the other 70 books didn't hurt much either.

I was under the assumption, like everybody else, that 70 other books didn't sell.


i am concerned about the word on the street that don geppi has put a hit out on me. got to have my mob guys talk to his mob guys and get this straightened out . it's not like he can't pull the right strings at cgc and heritage and we can all be as happy as pigs in shit.

Gibberish


on a more civil note ,why don't you post a bunch of links to unrestored hulk1's so we can compare them to the HACKED copy you/ace/robo/keys/hammer/DANNY S. DUPCAK/whatever the hell you want to call yourself, are currently selling with undisclosed trimming.

I'm not selling anything on Ebay. If you think the Hulk is hacked, bid on it and win it. If it's not hacked, just hack it yourself and say it was when you received it. That's been done before to CK. SInce you either pistol whip people at gunpoint, or set up pistol whippings/murders, I'm sure that hacking a comic is an easy layup for you.

#allhailme#

[AceVentura]

please upgrade your danny dupcak photo to the blonde edgier dd. that is how he looked on9/29/07. he is now 54 but looks younger than his 97 mug shot. money,botox and plastic surgery can do wonders but it has left his face kind of motionless and unexpressive. there is this kind of blonde/orange new born baby fuzz on the top and way back on the sides of his big ass inbred,light bulb,woody harelson,payton manning,charlie brown head.has transparent light hazel/honey brown eyes. about 5ft 9 175 trim frame and apparently not as musceled as hammer. probably quite the roids and/or working out.clear complexion,nose same as 97. old guy should post new with the old.every dealer ,collector and shop needs to know what he looks like.

I agree. We SHOULD always be vigilant and keep a lookout for DD.

Ironically, From your admissions of pistol whippings, hits, and publically threatening murder, I bet we'll be seeing alot more of YOUR mug shot than DD's in the near future, Jan!

#exorcist#

BTW, I LOVE that movie, Fracture. Seen it many times. GREAT movie, but I would have taken a different approach to putting the screws to the missus. The last thing I would have wanted was her death, and I'm not violent or murderous, like you are, by your own admission.

Tell you what I would have done. If she had a son, I would have made sure that he eventually get his hands on the truth about his mother and all her lies through the years. Her son's silence and hatred for her once the truth was known, would have been far more satisfying a punishment than a quick dispatching.

[AceVentura]

why don't you post a bunch of links to unrestored hulk1's so we can compare them to the HACKED copy you/ace/robo/keys/hammer/DANNY S. DUPCAK/whatever the hell you want to call yourself, are currently selling with undisclosed trimming.

I just looked. This comic isn't being sold as unrestored? You don't even BEGIN to know WTF you're talking about.

Anyway, for the record, here's one:

http://comics.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=824&Lot_No=43359&src=pr#PHOTO


in a CGC blue label that has the same exact distance between the IND, the code and the top edge of the book as does the restored one in Robo's listings but shows almost NO SHOES AT ALL on Bruce Banner. It's physically, at least a full 1/8th of an inch SHORTER than Robo's listed book, and yet it's in a blue label.

Did CGC screw up? Or quite possibly 1961 and 1962 Marvels vary WIDELY in production with respect to edge configuration, wrap, and size?

And left to right, the missing artwork on the right side is perfectly balanced in size by the art placement where the spine is. Also, the page end configuration on the right edge is almost IDENTICAL to Robo's restored copy. No edges on either of the Hulk 1s are trimmed.

[paul a]

DANNY DUPCAK,you are really cracking up!and you crack me up!i was going to call you a mfing pussy after you pulled the last one.i did get to read it though,so excuse me if i reference something that you erased and regardless , you are a mfing pussy!you can not take a joke,,can not comprehend the written word (are you sure you passed that reading comprehension course) and don't even know who you are. you are not richard koos. i asked WHY koos and your balding ma ROSEMARY LEE DUPCAK were in todd's store on 10/27/07 and offered you two possible explanations.you can pick one,tell the truth,or just make up some wild IDIOTIC LIE as always,DANNY DUPCAK. look what you made me do ,due to your inability to answer a simple question,you made me insult your ma.refresh my memory what year did i pistol whip and rob you at FANTAZIA ON 8/20? so the police report says you were BEAT BY A 5 FOOT 100LBS WHITE BRONX GIRL???????????damn you trapped me into revealing who i am!!!!!!!!!!!!you are one freakin cretin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i know what's in the report so PLEASE,PLEASE,PLEASE,go to the police,go to the fbi,go to homeland security,go to ACME legal services and tell them that someone totally unknown to you, has threatened to harm someone you don't claim to be but really are,by warning you,who you are not,that there is a mob hit out on the person that you are not,but really are,and that it's all a case of mistaken identity by your crazy little ex- girl friend because you are not,but really are,the person that didn't ,but did, commit the fraud which resulted in the hit order......o shit ,i'm confused ! who's on first ,what's on second , third base ? I DON,T KNOW ,but with your keen ,logical ,uber rational,mind and clean police record, i 'm sure you will convince them. I understand your neighbors all love you and so does the local popo.PLEASE open that can of worms. mind if i invite some people to my trial:todd,david,lutz,geppi,cgc,ewart,heritage,old guy,burntboy,bugsy,mertropolis,jan and a ton of ripped off,riled up,pissed off fan boys, you know,the people you fondly refer to as the lynch mob.you can bring your crazy bald ma, baby huey koos,your second wife(and second to dump your lyin' cheatin' ass) mother of your 2 legit daughters angela moses,henry moses your friend who stole your second wife and raised your legit kids,do you want me to name your whole extended family guy who isn't DANNY DUPCAK. since you can not admit who you are ,for fear of going back to jail 'you are more cock blocked than poor idiot todd. on the hulk 1 ,so thats how you plan to screw the poor chump that get's stuck with it.when he finds out it's trimmed ,you just claim you sent him a beauty and he trimmed it or he is substituting a pos. did you think up that scam while you were laying in bed with with your hands tied behind your back so you couldn't jerk off .does the S stand for sybil?????????????????????????? DANNY S. DUPCAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[AceVentura]

DANNY DUPCAK,you are really cracking up!and you crack me up!i was going to call you a mfing pussy after you pulled the last one.i did get to read it though,so excuse me if i reference something that you erased and regardless , you are a mfing pussy!you can not take a joke,,can not comprehend the written word (are you sure you passed that reading comprehension course) and don't even know who you are. you are not richard koos. i asked WHY koos and your balding ma ROSEMARY LEE DUPCAK were in todd's store on 10/27/07 and offered you two possible explanations.you can pick one,tell the truth,or just make up some wild IDIOTIC LIE as always,DANNY DUPCAK. look what you made me do ,due to your inability to answer a simple question,you made me insult your ma.refresh my memory what year did i pistol whip and rob you at FANTAZIA ON 8/20? so the police report says you were BEAT BY A 5 FOOT 100LBS WHITE BRONX GIRL???????????damn you trapped me into revealing who i am!!!!!!!!!!!!you are one freakin cretin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i know what's in the report so PLEASE,PLEASE,PLEASE,go to the police,go to the fbi,go to homeland security,go to ACME legal services and tell them that someone totally unknown to you, has threatened to harm someone you don't claim to be but really are,by warning you,who you are not,that there is a mob hit out on the person that you are not,but really are,and that it's all a case of mistaken identity by your crazy little ex- girl friend because you are not,but really are,the person that didn't ,but did, commit the fraud which resulted in the hit order......o shit ,i'm confused ! who's on first ,what's on second , third base ? I DON,T KNOW ,but with your keen ,logical ,uber rational,mind and clean police record, i 'm sure you will convince them. I understand your neighbors all love you and so does the local popo.PLEASE open that can of worms. mind if i invite some people to my trial:todd,david,lutz,geppi,cgc,ewart,heritage,old guy,burntboy,bugsy,mertropolis,jan and a ton of ripped off,riled up,pissed off fan boys, you know,the people you fondly refer to as the lynch mob.you can bring your crazy bald ma, baby huey koos,your second wife(and second to dump your lyin' cheatin' ass) mother of your 2 legit daughters angela moses,henry moses your friend who stole your second wife and raised your legit kids,do you want me to name your whole extended family guy who isn't DANNY DUPCAK. since you can not admit who you are ,for fear of going back to jail 'you are more cock blocked than poor idiot todd. on the hulk 1 ,so thats how you plan to screw the poor chump that get's stuck with it.when he finds out it's trimmed ,you just claim you sent him a beauty and he trimmed it or he is substituting a pos. did you think up that scam while you were laying in bed with with your hands tied behind your back so you couldn't jerk off .does the S stand for sybil?????????????????????????? DANNY S. DUPCAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh not at all, I think YOU are cracking up. The only cracking up here is at your posts! I didn't say that a stumpy, 5 foot tall 100 pound girl did the pistol whipping. I have no idea what the police reports state. I wasn't there. I was about as close to Fantazia when the pistol whipping you spoke of doing took place as I was to Todd's store when the Det. 27 was sold.

What I said was that the only person that would know details about the pistol whipping and attempted murder occurring on 8/20, which is why it was mentioned, would be the perp, or the one who set it up. That's called logic, not accusation, and whomever you are, you did confirm that logic by admitting that YOU did the pistol-whipping, didn't you? Should I repost it for you? I think you forgot that YOU mentioned the pistol whipping and your part in it. I never mentioned anything about pistol whippings or murder attempts until you brought it up with your admission. Or are you even more obtuse than I suspect?

Obviously, you didn't look at the scans of the Hulk 1's or you would have seen that you're as wrong about it being trimmed, or being able to positively ID it as trimmed from a scan that there are existing exemplars posted that have the same dimensional attributes, as you are about my being DD and all other errata in your posts that is pure guesswork and speculation.

I've admitted who I am on MANY occassions. And I've also admitted who I'm NOT. You just don't seem to get it.

As far as removing post content, I'm remaining civil. No insults, no profanity, no threats, which your posts are littered with and will eventually get you banned at some point.

If you directed all this angst against anyone else on this forum other than me, whom you keep erroneously refferring to as DD, you would have been gone already, double standard applying.

I'm done with any talk of DD, which only concerned me by virtue of my being accused of being DD. You can ramble on and on about bald mothers, baby hueys, blue eyes to die for, jerking off, cock-blocking, crazy, stumpy ex-hos, and whatever else you want to. It has absolutely no relevance to comics or to me as I'm not interested to know intimate details of DD's life between him and his ex-hos.

So what I would suggest is finding DD, and taking this up with him directly. Taling this up with me is nothing more than a waste of time for both you and me.

I'm as done discussing inventory that isn't mine as I am done discussing people that aren't me.

I will discuss this allegation that I, CK/RK was in Todd's at any time, the fact being that I haven't even been in Pennsylvania at any time during this century, let alone Sept./07, or on 10/27/07, which can easily be proven since Oct 27 was the date given specifically. I can't prove anything about DD however. I don't have a collar around his neck and I'm not holding his leash. If you want to voir-dere DD, find him and have a go, with my blessings.

BTW, Here's a few exclamation and question marks I won't be using from all the future posts on DD that I won't be making. I saved them for you to use in your next posts. If you run out, let me know. There's plenty more where those came from:

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????

BTW, you're right about MY balding mother, merely by accident. I'm sure she's balding or bald by now. Anyone that's dead and buried goes bald eventually. Even you.

[AceVentura]

on the hulk 1 ,so thats how you plan to screw the poor chump that get's stuck with it.when he finds out it's trimmed ,you just claim you sent him a beauty and he trimmed it or he is substituting a pos. did you think up that scam while you were laying in bed with with your hands tied behind your back so you couldn't jerk off .does the S stand for sybil?????????????????????????? DANNY S. DUPCAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And furthermore, your reading comprehension is God-Awful! Really bad. Here's what I stated:


"I'm not selling anything on Ebay. If you think the Hulk is hacked, bid on it and win it. If it's not hacked, just hack it yourself and say it was when you received it. That's been done before to CK. SInce you either pistol whip people at gunpoint, or set up pistol whippings/murders, I'm sure that hacking a comic is an easy layup for you."

First off, it's not my book. I just commented that based on the scan and a scan of another blue label CGC book, it woudn't be possible to absolutely maintain that it's trimmed.

In another post, I mentioned that it's being sold as restored, not unrestored.

And quite logically, since you admitted to being the person who did the pistol whipping and have threatened that something more and worse is coming to DD by your hand, I suggested that trimming the Hulk, if it ISN'T trimmed, for the purpose of bearing false witness against Robo, certainly wouldn't be beyond your potential scope of misconduct.

I never stated that I tried to avoid making a refund by accusing a buyer of doing that to one of my returns for trim. There is no evidence to support your claim that I, CK/RK ever hedged on a refund for that reason or any other.

I suggest that you re-read Old Guy's testimonials.

[AceVentura]

Nah! Now you are just being melodramatic. DD is kind of a cult hero now. Come on out and bask in the glow of your celebrity. I'll even be your first customer if you do.

Just promise to sell me something mid-grade, golden age, with no trimming. Resto is fine.

Now are you still of the opinion that I was just being melodramatic and DD is kind of a cult hero?

:)

[ciorac]

Now are you still of the opinion that I was just being melodramatic and DD is kind of a cult hero?

:)

:D

LOL! Ha Ha! Good one CK. Glad you are keeping your sense of humor.

Hey, I guess it is true what they say:

"Heaven has no rage like love to hatred turned / Nor hell a fury like a woman scorned."

Dude, what did you do to her to get her to hate you so much?

[paul a]

:D

Dude, what did you do to her to get her to hate you so much?
do you really buy any of DANNY SYBIL DUPCAK'S bs ??? hate is not the motive and don't call me shirley!!

[ciorac]

do you really buy any of DANNY SYBIL DUPCAK'S bs ??? hate is not the motive and don't call me shirley!!

Not in the least, but he is fun to debate with. Of course he is Danny, I've tried to convince him to come clean, But he won't.

[The Charlton Guy]

I have had a full day to ruminate on this morning's posts.

Yesterday, I specifically asked that Paul A. and AceVentura desist from any more stone throwing, particularly of the personal nature.

There was one major flare-up this morning. The initial post by Paul A. is in clear violation of this request I made and the subsequent reply by Ace was of the same nature. Ace's post was soon edited for content (by him), but I do have a copy of the intitial post that contained a specific threat of investigation by law enforcement and/or a lawyer into Corral information (IP addresses, personal information, etc.).

This is a big no-no in my book, warning or no warning.

I let the posts stand, and have taken no action, but now it is time to do so.

I am going to put a temporary (one-week) ban on both of you (more on this at the end of this semi-rambling post).

And after doing so, I am going to step down as a Moderator at the Corral.

I will likely go into the reasons in more depth later, but the main reasons I am stepping down are four-fold and as follows:

1) Keeping track of this Area has become a real drag. Granted, all of this was pretty much of my making, so it is with much regret that I do this. But I cannot continue to ignore the fact that when this thread was started, and once Ace became a Corral Member, that on numerous occasions I broke the very "rules" of this Forum which I have been relegated to enforce. This is a very real problem for me. And I won't continue to live a double-standard, even if it is "only in discussion board land". As for this "rule" (I throw it in quotes because it is really an unspoken but often reinforced rule), it is this: Coming to the Corrral with the intent to harrass, troll or otherwsie hassle another Corral Member is reason enough to be banned immediately. No questions asked. This is a real cunundrum in Ace's case, because after all, I "invited" him here for just that purpose. Enough of that. Like I said, I can go into it later if anyones cares to hear more.

2) Having Ace here has become a greater and greater detriment to The Corral. I may not have the "proof" that this is so, but I know it to be so. Whether it is the few, but prized Members who have promised not to post here until he is gone (Oxbladder & OldGuy), or the obvious sneers in other Forums regarding his presence here, or the few PMs and emails I have received questioning our reasoning in having him remain here, it is becoming more and more obvious that whether it is deserved or not, it is a reality: The reputation of the Corral has suffered and is suffering because of his presence.

3) I need more time to spend with my kids, my wife, my job, my Feebay auctions and more importantly (in terms of my life here in the Corral, which I greatly prize), I need to begin having fun here again. And keeping up with this sordid soap opera we are getting back into, and playing this ridiculous cat and mouse game of getting Ace to tell us who he really is and who he is selling as on Feebay has gotten so stale and redundant as to be pitiful, and is certainly no fun at all. At least to me. If you feel differently about it, feel free to contact Hoss or one of the Moderators if you think I am way out of line.

4) I am probably not a very good Moderator when it comes to this stuff. I feel too strongly about the right of free speech, and the right of people to freely express their opinion, to deal with the very real fact that there are some people who just don't need to be, or deserve to be listened to. I also believe that those "in power" should serve a short term, then hand the reins over to someone new, someone with new, postive, creative ideas (God...I sound like a politician). I have been at this Moderation thingy in head over heels fashion for over two years and it's time to let someone else at it. I really do feel strongly about this as well, and hopefully Hoss will start the typical Mod search, with the hedonistic hazing ritual and dancing girls that accompany an event as significant as choosing a new Corral Mod. I would like to recommend UnlimitedRealities for the post.

So there are the reasons I am stepping down as Moderator. I hope you will understand. And it's not like I'm going anywhere. In fact, I'll now have more time to make a total ass out of myself, piss people off, and post really stupid jokes and funky Charlton covers.

Now back to Ace and Paul A.:

Again, the Ban is temporary. I no longer trust my judgement in this matter, so I am not making the ban permanent. I will pull a surprise cop-out (on Hoss) and leave that final decision to him and the Moderators. After all, this is his (and your) Corral, and the decision is most certainly not best made by the very person who created the problem in the first place (that would be me...). If Hoss or any other Moderators or Corral Members decide that Ace and/or Paul A. should stay or go, I will support the decision one way or the other.

Thanks for reading this rambling post and I look forward to chatting with you all soon.

Best regards,

The Charlton Guy

[mordo]

Sorry to hear you are stepping down, CG. I thought you were doing a helluva job. First rate all the way.

You know, you can always just stay on as a Corral mod and just recuse yourself from anything to do with this sub-forum. What do you think?

[The Charlton Guy]

Thanks Mordo. Your support is greatly appreciated.

I will still be putting my two-cents worth in with Hoss and the active Mods, and doing what I can do to get new Members into The Corral. I just won't be "policing" this Area or any other Area, other than to do what any Corral Member would do if a problem should arise. But yes, I will be recusing myself from any more Moderation in this or any other Area. In fact, I won't be posting here in this Area again for some time, unless it is to create a new Network of Disclosure thread or something similar.

I have nothing else to say to Ace or to anyone else who is in discourse with Ace. I have already said everything I needed to say, asked everything I needed to ask. All of that is pretty well laid out in these threads, if you have a day or two to read them. I don't need to add anything more.

Thanks again, and I'll be seeing you elsewhere in The Corral.

Have fun and best regards,

C.G.

[Hoss]

Good morning everyone...

I have placed lots of thought into what has occured yesterday and in these restoration threads over a longer amount of time. I have decided that the bans will be permanent.

[jaydeebee]

As the parties involved in this dispute are no longer able to participate in this discussion, I believe this would be an excellent time to lock this thread. Thanks and enjoy the buffet!

[The Charlton Guy]

I'm also unlocking this thread, as I think that recent events chronicled here in The Corral and on some ongoing threads at CGC are going to make some of the information included in this thread very pertinent and subject to comment.

Thanks,

C.G.

[mordo]

Tell us everything you know, Charlton Guy! You know you want to. #poke#

[The Charlton Guy]

I do, and I will, but it may take a while...:?...to work out this gag reflex thing.

[GRINDER]

just thought I'd bump this thread and let you guys know that Danny's es-girlfriend has posted over at the CGC boards....should be a good thread.

[razorz000]

just thought I'd bump this thread and let you guys know that Danny's es-girlfriend has posted over at the CGC boards....should be a good thread.


Oh man this is going to be good !!!:D

[GRINDER]

Oh man this is going to be good !!!:Dits already getting OT....for some reason...people like to reference Hitler when it comes to Danny.:shock:

[razorz000]

why on earth would board members know who she is and who she was with (danny's ex) and not say something long ago ??

grinder you have to get into detective mode and find out some answers.

this give that board a very-very bed rep because of info that is known and not shared when it come to mr. dupcake

[GRINDER]

why on earth would board members know who she is and who she was with (danny's ex) and not say something long ago ??

grinder you have to get into detective mode and find out some answers.

this give that board a very-very bed rep because of info that is known and not shared when it come to mr. dupcakepeople have their reasons...but at least its out now.

me....a detective? I have had my moments ;)

"The Robojo33 discussion thread" was a good one :D

[razorz000]

P.M. sent Grinder

[GRINDER]

P.M. sent Grinderunable to reply until I have 10 posts #jester#

[razorz000]

unable to reply until I have 10 posts #jester#

:(

gremlins work ... #dunno#

[GRINDER]

#allhailme#


:(

gremlins work ... #dunno#

[The Charlton Guy]

Hard to believe, but it's been two years since I posted on this thread.

I still shake my head in disbelief when I come back and read this thread. What a long, surreal trip it was.

I ressurect it now because of this thread on the CGC boards:

http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3702478#Post3702478

The court date is April 28th.

[toz1960]

Hard to believe, but it's been two years since I posted on this thread.

I still shake my head in disbelief when I come back and read this thread. What a long, surreal trip it was.

I ressurect it now because of this thread on the CGC boards:

http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3702478#Post3702478

The court date is April 28th.

I wonder if cameras will be allowed in the courtroom?

ya' know CG? The trial was the first thing I thought of when I saw you had posted.I'd like to be there.

[The Charlton Guy]

It's a seven hour drive for me and my kids have sports that night or I'd be there.

I am a very lucky man.

[The Charlton Guy]

It truly amazes me that nobody seems to give a damn about the outcome of this shin-dig.

[The Charlton Guy]

Oh what the hell...if you can't beat 'em? Join 'em:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250634975285&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT

[toz1960]

Yer' a Freakin' genius CG.Funniest thing I've read in years.

[The Charlton Guy]

Yer' a Freakin' genius CG.Funniest thing I've read in years.

Now if I could only get my wife to agree with you...#jester#

[The Charlton Guy]

Both auctions just got pulled.

Gee, I wonder who reported them? #hello#

[illuminated]

MC024 The listing you're interested in is no longer available

http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/globalAssets/rtCurve.gif http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/s.gif http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/s.gif http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/s.gif
http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/s.gif

Thank you for your interest in this listing:

250634975285 - BETTER THAN TALES TO ASTONISH #27! 1st ANT-MAN/BOY! NM+

Unfortunately, the listing is no longer available. We understand that this may be disappointing, but sometimes we need to remove listings to protect buyers.

There are three main reasons why we remove listings:

-- The listing doesn't follow eBay guidelines.
-- The item isn't allowed on eBay or can only be listed under certain conditions.
-- The listing contains pictures or words in it that may have created copyright or trademark issues.

If the seller is able to fix the problem and relist the item, we hope you'll consider buying it. For privacy reasons, we're not able to give more specific details

We have other great deals on eBay. Visit www.ebay.com (http://www.ebay.com) to continue your shopping today.

[illuminated]

Both auctions just got pulled.

This is tragic. I never even saw the other one; just the Antboy one.

Interestingly, this is the first time I ever got a notice from eBay saying an auction I was watching was pulled. What purpose does it serve?

[illuminated]

D'Ohh!! Now I think I know why I got the notice. It's cuz I had a bid in. Nothing to see here.

[The Charlton Guy]

Turns out a CGC poster reported it:

http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=4034729#Post4034729

"kahml" says, "Reported"
http://boards.collectors-society.com/usericons/1765.jpg

Danny's little helper. Thanks kahml.

[The Charlton Guy]

This is tragic. I never even saw the other one; just the Antboy one.

Interestingly, this is the first time I ever got a notice from eBay saying an auction I was watching was pulled. What purpose does it serve?


Here's a couple of photos of "the other one":

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/the-charlton-guy/0-CGTHOR-01.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/the-charlton-guy/0-CGTHOR-04.jpg

As for "what purpose does it serve"?

Reporting and pulling these auctions serves to keep people ignorant of Feebay comoc-selling scammers.

[nocutename]

Sorry that the auctions got pulled. They were both extremely funny. I won't bank on that guy being the actual one that did the reporting as I think they sometimes just say that in a joking manner. But it does look like it stemmed from the CGC boards.

[The Charlton Guy]

Meanwile..."As The World Turns"...: #tomato#

This listing is for a restored Hulk #1 in apparent NM/MT condition with off-white to white pages, likely the most attractive existing, one-of-a-kind Hulk #1.
It's the original 1962 newsstand issue first appearance of the Incredible Hulk, and is not a reprint or special edition.
It has color touch, and several tear seals/reinforcement that most hobbyists will not be able to detect.
It has not been trimmed.
The comic is glossy, clean, complete, and has no tape. It's priced at about 1/20th the estimated market value of an unrestored Hulk #1 in similar condition (if one exists).


http://i497.photobucket.com/albums/rr337/Robotics223/Hulk1ct_030111.jpg

[/URL]

[URL]http://cgi.ebay.com/INCREDIBLE-HULK-1-1962-APPT-NM-MT-9-8-RESTORED-/170627522074?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27ba315e1a (http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss103/PS1065/AS79_053009.jpg)

[The Charlton Guy]

#tomato#Here is the large image link for this magnificent rarity: #tomato#


http://i497.photobucket.com/albums/rr337/Robotics223/FF1_030111.jpg


THE MOST MAGNIFICENT RUSTY STAPLED VERY FINE YOU WILL EVER SEE!


This listing is for an original 1961 Fantastic Four #1 in VFN condition with off-white to white pages, featuring a brilliant, snowy cover whites and extremely bright colors!
It's the original 1961 Marvel Comics newsstand issue and not the 1966 Golden Record reprint, or other reprint/special edition.
The comic is glossy, clean, complete, and has no tape, repairs, or restoration of any kind.







http://i497.photobucket.com/albums/rr337/Robotics223/FF1_030111.jpg



http://cgi.ebay.com/FANTASTIC-FOUR-1-1961-VFN-8-0-ORIGINAL-NOT-REPRINT-/170627521969?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27ba315db1

[razz]

I read through a few pages of this thread and I can't help but feel "Ace" gets a bad rap. He politely answered your questions and no one could prove any of their wild accusations. He was even threatened to be murdered by a violent forum-ite here. I don't see any reason for his banning, and believe some of the posters in this thread owe him a huge apology.

As for that Robojo fella, he has many, many sales and 100% feedback. If he were all these things posters write he is, then how come not a single negative? Not one???? If that many people hate him, they could easily purchase one of his items and leave him a negative.

And yet not one person has done that. Why? The words gutless and envy come to mind.

Banning Ace just appears to be a weak cop-out.

[Hepcat]

#tomato#Here is the large image link for this magnificent rarity: #tomato#




http://i497.photobucket.com/albums/rr337/Robotics223/FF1_030111.jpg


THE MOST MAGNIFICENT RUSTY STAPLED VERY FINE YOU WILL EVER SEE!


This listing is for an original 1961 Fantastic Four #1 in VFN condition with off-white to white pages, featuring a brilliant, snowy cover whites and extremely bright colors!
It's the original 1961 Marvel Comics newsstand issue and not the 1966 Golden Record reprint, or other reprint/special edition.
The comic is glossy, clean, complete, and has no tape, repairs, or restoration of any kind.







http://i497.photobucket.com/albums/rr337/Robotics223/FF1_030111.jpg



http://cgi.ebay.com/FANTASTIC-FOUR-1-1961-VFN-8-0-ORIGINAL-NOT-REPRINT-/170627521969?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27ba315db1



Twould look better in a CGC holder methinks.

;)

[Hepcat]

I read through a few pages of this thread and I can't help but feel "Ace" gets a bad rap. He politely answered your questions and no one could prove any of their wild accusations.... I don't see any reason for his banning, and believe some of the posters in this thread owe him a huge apology.


I'm too lazy to read 36 pages of drivel but I'm willing to take your word for it. How can you be sure though that Ace wasn't banned for something he said in another thread?


He was even threatened to be murdered by a violent forum-ite here.

Now that's a clown who was hopefully banned.


:eek:

[stupidman]

Ace was Comic-Keys who is Robo and I wish a horrible death upon him.

[razz]

Ace was Comic-Keys who is Robo and I wish a horrible death upon him.

Noooooooo. Really? C'mon now, stop telling fibs.

[razz]

Ace was Comic-Keys who is Robo and I wish a horrible death upon him.

Can you answer this standardized test question?

Ace : Comic-Keys :: Robo : ________ ?

[USArmyParatrooper]

Can you answer this standardized test question?

Ace : Comic-Keys :: Robo : ________ ?

Ace : Comic-Keys :: Robo : Cracked out PLOD salesman

[The Charlton Guy]

I read through a few pages of this thread and I can't help but feel "Ace" gets a bad rap. He politely answered your questions and no one could prove any of their wild accusations. He was even threatened to be murdered by a violent forum-ite here. I don't see any reason for his banning, and believe some of the posters in this thread owe him a huge apology.

As for that Robojo fella, he has many, many sales and 100% feedback. If he were all these things posters write he is, then how come not a single negative? Not one???? If that many people hate him, they could easily purchase one of his items and leave him a negative.

And yet not one person has done that. Why? The words gutless and envy come to mind.

Banning Ace just appears to be a weak cop-out.

It was no cop-out. He brought it on himself.

[razz]

It was no cop-out. He brought it on himself.

Yeah, but you can't argue with his feedback rating.

[Hepcat]

As for that Robojo fella, he has many, many sales and 100% feedback. If he were all these things posters write he is, then how come not a single negative? Not one???? If that many people hate him, they could easily purchase one of his items and leave him a negative.

Well I can honestly say that I've never purchased a comic from Robojo with which I wasn't absolutely delighted.

Hey, ho, this I know
Our main man is Robojo.

Catchy jingle, don't you think?

BTW, how many comics have you bought from Robojo yourself?

:confused:

[The Charlton Guy]

Yeah, but you can't argue with his feedback rating.

Whatever.

[razz]

BTW, how many comics have you bought from Robojo yourself?



I've never purchased a comic from Robojo with which I wasn't absolutely delighted.

[stupidman]

Yeah, but you can't argue with his feedback rating.

I'm sure you know that just because he doesn't currently have any Negs doesn't mean he's never received any. Here's a few lucky people who figured out his scam:

http://toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs?User=robojo33&Dirn=Received+by&Many=ON

[stupidman]

Well I can honestly say that I've never purchased a comic from Robojo with which I wasn't absolutely delighted.

Hey, ho, this I know
Our main man is Robojo.

Catchy jingle, don't you think?

BTW, how many comics have you bought from Robojo yourself?

:confused:

Are you saying you support Robo too?

[razz]

Are you saying you support Robo too?

Play on words my man, play on words.

[stupidman]

Play on words my man, play on words.

Yeah, I wasn't exactly sure so I wanted clarification. "Well I can honestly say that I've never purchased a comic from Robojo with which I wasn't absolutely delighted." could mean he's never purchased from him at all, or it could mean what you posted, having made an actual purchase from him. I was actually giving HepC the benefit of the doubt.

[kwm: The one and only VoR]

Play on words my man, play on words.

Is this one of Double D's mantras being quoted?

But it is strange that more people haven't gone after his FB, I agree with that.

He's far from the worst and hardly alone, however, and a minimum of effort will give any prospective buyer the skinny on him, so I can't get too worked up about his legendary shenannies.

Let the buyer beware, whether with Double D, CGC or any of the hundreds operating scammily in hobby.

[Hepcat]

Can you answer this standardized test question?

Ace : Comic-Keys :: Robo : ________ ?

Is this some kind of entrance exam to Florida Atlantic? Let me try:

Ace : Comic-Keys : : Robo : Steve Borock

Did I pass?

:confused:

[Hepcat]

Ace was Comic-Keys who is Robo and I wish a horrible death upon him.

In the meantime maybe you and Arch can camp out on Robojo's front lawn with your placards and sing Kumbaya.

:cool:

[stupidman]

Is this some kind of entrance exam to Florida Atlantic? Let me try:

Ace : Comic-Keys : : Robo : Steve Borock

Did I pass?

:confused:

Sorry, the answer is:

Ace : Comic-Keys : : Robo : Comic-Keys

[stupidman]

In the meantime maybe you and Arch can camp out on Robojo's front lawn with your placards and sing Kumbaya.

:cool:

Don't even know what this means.

[Hepcat]

Sorry, the answer is:

Ace : Comic-Keys : : Robo : Comic-Keys

Oh well. Florida's too long a way to commute for classes anyway.

#dunno#

[razz]

Oh well. Florida's too long a way to commute for classes anyway.

#dunno#

You wouldn't get in, anyway. You'd never be able to pass the racist entrance exam.

Question number one...

Evolution kills _____ ______.

[Hepcat]

Evolution kills white peacocks.

:confused:

[razz]

Careful. You could offend the "overly sensitive" people. I mean peacocks.