Here's one that's headed for the...

[AceVentura]

... PRESS!:

http://cgi.ebay.com/More-Fun-Comics-No-67-The-Spectre_W0QQitemZ190132734329QQihZ009QQcategoryZ39 72QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

nearing $1000.00, bent in a sharp 'S" and minus a bottom spine corner. The lucky winner is going to be pulling out Felix's old magic bag of resto tricks for this baby! :D

[The Charlton Guy]

This other one she has looks pretty sweet though:

http://cgi.ebay.com/The-Human-Torch-No-12_W0QQitemZ190132738040QQihZ009QQcategoryZ3972QQs sPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

That "little old lady" is going to be REALLY happy.

[marvelguy]

This other one she has looks pretty sweet though:

http://cgi.ebay.com/The-Human-Torch-No-12_W0QQitemZ190132738040QQihZ009QQcategoryZ3972QQs sPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

That "little old lady" is going to be REALLY happy.


That's a nice glossy book that needs to be ironed on the ironing board sometime. It's amazing how that book is used to swat flies.

[fulltimer56]

It's amazing how that book is used to swat flies.

Is that what you think they did with them, MG?

[AceVentura]

This other one she has looks pretty sweet though:

http://cgi.ebay.com/The-Human-Torch-No-12_W0QQitemZ190132738040QQihZ009QQcategoryZ3972QQs sPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

That "little old lady" is going to be REALLY happy.

$4300 Ducats!! :confused:

This I don't understand, CG. Unless it's just the allure of knowing that you're going to be the first person to press it.

You can pick up one of those constantly regurgitated CGC 8.5 HT #12s from one of Heritage's auctions for about $3500.
This sharp 's' bent #12 is going to have to garner a 9.0 label to make purchasing it for $4300 a worthwhile venture.
Unless Showcase-4 has some inside connections to get his 9.0, that's alot of wood for a #12 with S curves.

Can you imagine this book getting pressed into a CGC 9.4, being sold for $16,500 and then one day the buyer mosies on down to the Corral and sees this thread showing what his $16,500 book looked like "back in the day"?

Can you post a pic of it in this thread somewhere, CG, so when the picture is pulled from the listing, it will remain here as testimony. You KNOW this book is destined to show up, pressed flat in a CGC slab, within the next three months on Ebay, ComicLink, or on heritage. It's great image to save and I'm sure will be a compelling comparison in the near future.

[oxbladder]

Man those are sweet books despite the bends. In this case I would get them pressed. All three were listed in one auction together and either the seller ended it early or they went unsold for $15 US

[AceVentura]

Man those are sweet books despite the bends. In this case I would get them pressed. All three were listed in one auction together and either the seller ended it early or they went unsold for $15 US

#12s the pick of the litter. The MF 69 has a missing corner. The press isn't going to rectify that flaw regardless of how flat they pancake it. It could only make the corner worse, like on JP's "9.6" Spiderman #1 with the exploding bottom spine corner, which was the first book I've ever seen graded 9.6 with only 3 corners.

If you recall, JP's 9.6 used to be graded lower and the notes, "browning on cover margins" were removed when relabeled and label upgraded. Unfortunately, pages that are starting to brittle are NOT a choice candidate for exposure to heat and pressure, proving that books that are banked on for potential can sometimes backfire on you and turn out to be a pig in the poke, unless you have someone standing by that you can count on to help you out of your predicament with a gift grade.

[The Charlton Guy]

$4300 Ducats!! :confused:

This I don't understand, CG. Unless it's just the allure of knowing that you're going to be the first person to press it. .

It is a pretty, shiny little bauble isn't it? Maybe some squirell wants to line their cage with it.




Can you imagine this book getting pressed into a CGC 9.4, being sold for $16,500 and then one day the buyer mosies on down to the Corral and sees this thread showing what his $16,500 book looked like "back in the day"?.

"OH MAH GAWDDDD!!!"
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/the-charlton-guy/profade.jpg
"WHATTID THAT OL' LADY DO WIDDAT BOOK?"
"SWAT FLIES WIDDIT?"



Can you post a pic of it in this thread somewhere, CG, so when the picture is pulled from the listing, it will remain here as testimony. You KNOW this book is destined to show up, pressed flat in a CGC slab, within the next three months on Ebay, ComicLink, or on heritage. It's great image to save and I'm sure will be a compelling comparison in the near future.

That is guaranteed...likely as a 9.6

Here you go:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/the-charlton-guy/9ace_1.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/the-charlton-guy/9f0c_1.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/the-charlton-guy/a824_1.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/the-charlton-guy/ab06_1.jpg

[marvelguy]

It's amazing how that book is used to swat flies.

Is that what you think they did with them, MG?

LOL...I know that back in the days of old....kids would roll them up books and shove it in their back pockets and jumping in mud playing with frogs and snakes.

[StlComics]

Unless Showcase-4 has some inside connections to get his 9.0, that's alot of wood for a #12 with S curves.

I see that Showcase-4 is showing a 'Network of Disclosure' seal on his me page...
http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPage&userid=showcase-4

If he does have these books pressed and slabbed and then flips them, he is sworn to disclose all work done on them. It will be interesting to see if that really happens.

[The Charlton Guy]

LOL...I know that back in the days of old....kids would roll them up books and shove it in their back pockets and jumping in mud playing with frogs and snakes.


"Damn snotty-nosed kids with their Human Torch crap..."
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/the-charlton-guy/bigbull.jpg
"Gimme a good ol' Alan Moore Swamp Thing anyday..."

[AceVentura]

I see that Showcase-4 is showing a 'Network of Disclosure' seal on his me page...
http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPage&userid=showcase-4

If he does have these books pressed and slabbed and then flips them, he is sworn to disclose all work done on them. It will be interesting to see if that really happens.

Or they'll be flipped to another flipper. Maybe one without the Starkist seal. Where there's money to be made by pressing and endless resubmitting, there's usually a long line of flippers in the intermediary chain all taking a piece for themselves, between the first and final porpoise.

[jaydeebee]

As folds go, that's certainly not the worst I've ever seen. A few days and nights under some encyclopedias would do wonders for it. Can't see as where that would be doing any harm...

[The Charlton Guy]

A few days and nights under some encyclopedias would do wonders for it. Can't see as where that would be doing any harm...

That would be my take and M.O. too.

But what is more likely is that the book will get a "Professional" pressing and cleaning, get shipped to CGC via a "preferred network" and get a bumped up a grade or two or three, all to make a buck.

The biggest problem with this of course being that this great little time machine of a book, which has sat in a box somewhere for 60 years, is not likely to get read or enjoyed anywhere along that route.

It just becomes another expensive, shiny bauble.

[fulltimer56]

LOL...I know that back in the days of old....kids would roll them up books and shove it in their back pockets and jumping in mud playing with frogs and snakes.


I have to say that I'm as guilty as the next guy!! When I was a kid, I wasn't thinking about collecting comics, just reading them and trading them to my other friends that had comics I didn't have!! I put comics in back pockets (easier to ride my bike) to using them kill spiders (no, not Spider-Man)!

Linda

[jaeldubyoo]

As folds go, that's certainly not the worst I've ever seen. A few days and nights under some encyclopedias would do wonders for it. Can't see as where that would be doing any harm...

I've tried that method too and it does work. I've had comics that were so bent I thought about throwing them out because I thought they were beyond hope. Keeping them flat under heavy weight for a few weeks has worked wonders. The only thing is you can't get rid of the color-breaking creases.

[Blufalkn2]

I've tried that method too and it does work. I've had comics that were so bent I thought about throwing them out because I thought they were beyond hope. Keeping them flat under heavy weight for a few weeks has worked wonders. The only thing is you can't get rid of the color-breaking creases.

I am so far behind I could just bag it and shove it in the middle of my "To be read" box. Be crispy in no time!

[StlComics]

Encyclopedias will work somewhat, but it isn't the same as pressing. When they use a press to do it, heat and moisture are added that allow the paper to actually take that shape again. When you add weight in the form of encyclopedias, the paper is still somewhat trying to conform to that bent shape. It will never get 100% flat again.

[SatansProdigy]

mmmmm......non-pressing pressing! #cloud9#

[AceVentura]

Encyclopedias will work somewhat, but it isn't the same as pressing. When they use a press to do it, heat and moisture are added that allow the paper to actually take that shape again. When you add weight in the form of encyclopedias, the paper is still somewhat trying to conform to that bent shape. It will never get 100% flat again.

Agreed. Definitely won't become flat again without heat, moisture, AND pressure. These books have likely been bent in that state for 60 years. A few weeks. months, or even a year isn't going to negate what took 60 years to create.

Something bent that badly will probably have to be disassembled, each page pressed individually. ALOT of heat and moiture would have to be used to press all of the interior pages simultaneously on a book bent that severely. Heat and moisture sufficient enough to flatten the inside pages would likely adversely affect the glossy cover stock unless the cover and inside pages have their own individual treatment.

I can't imagine it being pressed whole, unless they're willing to risk severly deforming the cover and impacting the cover colors and finish.

[jaydeebee]

Encyclopedias will work somewhat, but it isn't the same as pressing. When they use a press to do it, heat and moisture are added that allow the paper to actually take that shape again. When you add weight in the form of encyclopedias, the paper is still somewhat trying to conform to that bent shape. It will never get 100% flat again.

Maybe I could leave it under some encyclopedias in the bathroom, lots of heat and moisture in there.:D