The White Mountain Pedigree

[Red Hook]

This is the start of a thread dedicated to the White Mountain Pedigree, one of the earliest and highest quality silver age pedigree collections. Back story to come. Here is an example...

http://www.macartistry.com/pedigrees/whitemountain/StrangeAdventures-156-8.5-WM.jpg

[Red Hook]

Here's another example...the White Mountains often have the last two digits of the year marked in pen on the cover. Many also have the date stamped on the splash page.

http://www.macartistry.com/pedigrees/whitemountain/sa159wm.jpg

[marvelguy]

These SA's looks like a keeper!

[Red Hook]

Till Mr. CGCWorld starts posting some of his Marvels. They're eye-popping! :)

[cgc-world]

I don't know if I'll get a chance before heading to NYC to post some WM's but I'll make sure I get posting next week...anything to discuss my favourite subject.

Jim

[cgc-world]

BTW should I post them all in one post or a different post for every book?

Jim

[cgc-world]

TTA #35 1st appearance of Ant-Man (if it wasn't for a tear on the bottom of the book, as easy 9.0.

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i195/cgc-world/WMTTA35.jpg

Jim

[Red Hook]

Great addition to the collection, Jim. How many WM's do you have at this point?

Red

[cgc-world]

With this latest haul from NYCC (really missed you BTW) I think I cracked the 50 mark in less than a year. I tried to post all my books yesterday but the website was running slow so gave up after the TTA #35. I'll try again tomorrow night when I get a chance.

Jim

[cgc-world]

Continuing with the TTA theme, here is #40

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i195/cgc-world/My%20White%20Mountains/WMTTA40.jpg

Jim

[cgc-world]

And although I don't own it here is another copy of TTA #40 from the White Mountain pedigree.

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i195/cgc-world/My%20White%20Mountains/WMTTA402.jpg

One of the few WM books that there are a multiple of.

Jim

[cgc-world]

TTA #42

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i195/cgc-world/My%20White%20Mountains/WMTTA42.jpg

Jim

[cgc-world]

TTA #43

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i195/cgc-world/My%20White%20Mountains/WMTTA43.jpg

Jim

[cgc-world]

Tales to Astonish #49 and 1st Giant-Man

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i195/cgc-world/My%20White%20Mountains/WMTTA49.jpg

Jim

[cgc-world]

TTA #53

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i195/cgc-world/My%20White%20Mountains/WMTTA53-1.jpg

Jim

[cgc-world]

and it's brother #54

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i195/cgc-world/My%20White%20Mountains/WMTTA54-1.jpg

Jim

[cgc-world]

TTA #58

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i195/cgc-world/My%20White%20Mountains/WMTTA58-1.jpg

Jim

[cgc-world]

My 1st WM and the book that got me into this mess...I mean madness. A minor key TTA #59

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i195/cgc-world/My%20White%20Mountains/WMTTA59-1.jpg

Jim

[cgc-world]

TTA #66

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i195/cgc-world/My%20White%20Mountains/WMTTA66.jpg

Jim

[cgc-world]

TTA #67

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i195/cgc-world/My%20White%20Mountains/WMTTA67.jpg

Jim

[cgc-world]

An Ebay book that if I didn't search "pedigree" instead of White Mountain, I would have never found.

TTA #70

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i195/cgc-world/My%20White%20Mountains/WMTTA70.jpg

[cgc-world]

Next up we have a bunch of raw WM's that I picked up from JHV in Chicago last year.

TTA #76

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i195/cgc-world/My%20White%20Mountains/WMTTA76.jpg

Jim

[cgc-world]

TTA #82

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i195/cgc-world/My%20White%20Mountains/WMTTA82.jpg

Jim

[cgc-world]

TTA #84

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i195/cgc-world/My%20White%20Mountains/WMTTA84.jpg

Jim

[cgc-world]

TTA #86

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i195/cgc-world/My%20White%20Mountains/WMTTA86.jpg

Jim

[cgc-world]

TTA #97

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i195/cgc-world/My%20White%20Mountains/WMTTA97.jpg

Jim

[cgc-world]

And lastly the 2nd last issue #100

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i195/cgc-world/My%20White%20Mountains/WMTTA100.jpg

That is all for my Tales to Astonish run. Before I picked these up I had never owned a TTA in my life. Now it has become my prime goal to finish this particular run.

Jim

[Red Hook]

Wow!


Actually, I meant WOW!!!

[cgc-world]

Very few White Mountain copies ever show up for sale. Actually from the run of #1-66 only a half dozen have ever been graded and the rest could be anywhere. Here is one of the ones that have surfaced, X-Men #9

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i195/cgc-world/My%20White%20Mountains/WMX-Men9.jpg

Jim

[cgc-world]

Caps are pretty tough to find, and I'd like to thank Mike Miles who broke up his pedigree run of Captain America books to sell me these two.

Captain America #101

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i195/cgc-world/My%20White%20Mountains/WMCap101.jpg

and Captain America #102

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i195/cgc-world/My%20White%20Mountains/WMCap102.jpg

Jim

[cgc-world]

I've only manged to find one Strange Tales so far but it is a classic. Somebody replaced the staples though...hence the qualified grade.

Strange Tales #114

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i195/cgc-world/My%20White%20Mountains/WMST114.jpg

Jim

[cgc-world]

Wouldn't you know that one of the nicer runs of the Silver Age Marvels are the Amazing Spider-Man's, so this run gets pricey pretty quick.

Amazing Spider-Man #15 (1st Kraven)

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i195/cgc-world/WMASM15.jpg

Jim

[cgc-world]

ASM #18

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i195/cgc-world/My%20White%20Mountains/WMASM18.jpg

Jim

[cgc-world]

ASM #27

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i195/cgc-world/My%20White%20Mountains/WMASM27.jpg

Jim

[cgc-world]

ASM #34

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i195/cgc-world/My%20White%20Mountains/WMASM34.jpg

Jim

[cgc-world]

ASM #42 1st Mary Jane but only a 6.5

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i195/cgc-world/My%20White%20Mountains/WMASM42.jpg

Jim

[cgc-world]

The Avengers portion of my run is somewhat limited that another collector that I highly respect is working on the run as well.

Avengers #10

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i195/cgc-world/WMAvengers10.jpg

Jim

[cgc-world]

Avengers #25

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i195/cgc-world/My%20White%20Mountains/WMAvengers25.gif

Jim

[cgc-world]

Avengers #33

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i195/cgc-world/My%20White%20Mountains/WMAvengers33.jpg

Jim

[cgc-world]

Not exactly Silver Age but I thought this was a nice little addition to the collection.

Defenders #1

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i195/cgc-world/WMDEF1.jpg

Jim

[cgc-world]

FF's and Thor's to come in the near future.

Jim

[Hoss]

thanks for sharing all those great books!

--

[Red Hook]

Excellent books, Jim. Not coincidentally, the Green River X-Men run has mostly gone unseen. I've only seen a handful of those books.

You are quite correct, those ASM's are awesome!

Red

[cgc-world]

My Oldest J.I.M/Thor and also my latest acquistion.

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i195/cgc-world/WMJIM91.jpg

Jim

[cgc-world]

J.I.M. #107

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i195/cgc-world/My%20White%20Mountains/WMJIM107.jpg

Jim

[cgc-world]

J.I.M. #115

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i195/cgc-world/My%20White%20Mountains/WMJIM115.jpg

Jim

[cgc-world]

J.I.M. #120

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i195/cgc-world/My%20White%20Mountains/WMJIM120.jpg

Jim

[cgc-world]

J.I.M. #122

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i195/cgc-world/WMJIM122.jpg

Jim

[cgc-world]

Thor #139

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i195/cgc-world/My%20White%20Mountains/WMThor139.jpg

Jim

[cgc-world]

Thor #139


http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i195/cgc-world/My%20White%20Mountains/WMThor139.jpg


Jim

[cgc-world]

A raw Thor #149


http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i195/cgc-world/My%20White%20Mountains/WMThor149.jpg


Jim

[Red Hook]

With the sticker too! Suh-weet! New pickup from Metro?

Red

#woohoo#

[cgc-world]

Brad: A couple of months ago from FingFanFoom from the "other" boards :)

Jim

[Red Hook]

Oh, you mean, the "brand x" boards? ;)

[cgc-world]

Might as well finish off the Fantastic Four portion of my collection, but they won't be in exact order. Let's start with issue #25, a classic battle cover.

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i195/cgc-world/WMFF25.jpg

Jim

[cgc-world]

Everybody loves this cover FF #27

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i195/cgc-world/WMFF27.jpg

Jim

[cgc-world]

FF #31 is tough to get in grade.

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i195/cgc-world/WMFF31.jpg

Jim

[cgc-world]

I picked this #30 a few weeks back at NYCC (missed you Brad)

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i195/cgc-world/WMFF30.jpg

Jim

[cgc-world]

FF #38

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i195/cgc-world/WMFF38.jpg

Jim

[cgc-world]

FF #71

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i195/cgc-world/WMFF71.jpg

[cgc-world]

Unfortunately not mine but an absolute beauty of one of the toughest SA books period.

FF #13

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i195/cgc-world/WMFF13.jpg

Jim

[cgc-world]

FF #69

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i195/cgc-world/My%20White%20Mountains/WMFF69.jpg

Jim

[cgc-world]

FF #67

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i195/cgc-world/My%20White%20Mountains/WMFF67.jpg

Jim

[cgc-world]

FF #37

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i195/cgc-world/My%20White%20Mountains/WMFF37.jpg

Jim

[cgc-world]

And my absolute favourite...FF #28

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i195/cgc-world/My%20White%20Mountains/WMFF28.jpg

Jim

[The Charlton Guy]

I love that book too.

One of my personal favorites (the #28).

Thanks so much for sharing these. They are gorgeous books.

It must take a lot of patience to wait for these to become available on the market.

[cgc-world]

It does, it's been since NYCC since I added a book but it's all in the challenge. If they came up as often as I'd like A:) I'd be broke and B:) the reason I decided to collect only pedigrees was so I couldn't finish the set in a week.

Jim

[Red Hook]

Thanks for all the great books you shared today, Jim! I've always loved the cover of FF #31... one of the first books I ever traded for with someone back in the cafeteria of PS 100 in the Bronx, in 1966! I still have the book...in tatters! #oldie#

Brad

[AtlasFan]

Ahh, I love a nice Silver age pedigree.. In particular, pre-hero Marvels... no better type of comic on the planet..

These are all WMs:

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii7/atragon123/TTA_04.jpg
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii7/atragon123/TTA_05.jpg
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii7/atragon123/tta_32.jpg

[Red Hook]

Thanks for posting these Atlas!

Red

[Grails]

One of my gems. Color is off in the scan.


http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh109/Grails/IH2.jpg

[Mariner]

TTA #35 1st appearance of Ant-Man (if it wasn't for a tear on the bottom of the book, as easy 9.0.



http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i195/cgc-world/WMTTA35.jpg



Jim

Good thing the red 49 isn't a pinpoint of red on his costume. Then this might get a restored 4.5

[cgc-world]

Just had to add this beauty that I just won on CL for what I reckon is a steal (less than GPA). A key, an ASM and a White Mountain for less than current market value...where can I find me more?

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i195/cgc-world/WMASM6.jpg

Jim

[Red Hook]

Jim, that is simply an awesome pickup! Congratulations! I've always liked that cover a great deal!

Red

#woohoo#

[BigHulkFan]

Who would want books with writing all over them:confused:

[Red Hook]

You'd be surprised!

BTW....checked in on the CGC boards and it's good to see that the negative appraisals of Heritage and their bidding system has now reached almost total unanimity.

Told ya it wasn't the place to bid years ago. It's a setup. It's great to see general opinion finally catching up.

#oldie#

[comicstock]

Someone take a minnit and review the Heritage bidding method (or whatever). I don't deal with them but I would like an idea on what goes on there.:confused:

[Mjacobs8]

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x259/allwins858/MysteryTales37CGC70WhiteMontain.jpg
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x259/allwins858/MtstreyTales52CGC70WhiteMountain.jpg

Two ebay wins.

[buried_alien]

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x259/allwins858/MysteryTales37CGC70WhiteMontain.jpg


http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x259/allwins858/MtstreyTales52CGC70WhiteMountain.jpg


Two ebay wins.

Nice books!

[buried_alien]

Here are a couple of DC WM's that I have in my photobucket account:


http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff165/Buried_Alien/StrangeAdventures68front.jpg

[buried_alien]

and another....:

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff165/Buried_Alien/StrangeAdventures126front.jpg

[Red Hook]

Great books! I have a couple of WM Strange Adventures too! Do these have the date written on the first interior page?

[buried_alien]

Hey Red,

I don't recall there being one in the 68, although pretty sure there is on the 126....

[Red Hook]

Thanks for posting those! I love those DC sci-fi titles. #woohoo#

[cgc-world]

Added this to the collection ever the weekend.

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i195/cgc-world/My%20White%20Mountains/WMNickFury4.jpg

Jim

[Red Hook]

One of the most ground-breaking covers ever! Glad you added this one to the CGC-World White Mountain Collection, Jim.

What are the odds that your collection is the biggest WM collection out there?

Brad

[cgc-world]

Brad: It is really hard to say...probably but I don't think I could say that definitively. It is possible that somebody who bought them when they were sold in large lots through Sothebys in the early 90's could have more. For instance the entire Daredevil run is non existent. None have ever been graded and I've never heard of a raw version showing up for sale. Same story with the Tales of Suspense run, other than issue #39 which is a 9.6 book.

Jim

[Red Hook]

Yes, I hear you. You know.... if you called Mark Haspel, he might be willing to give you the total number of White Mountain books that have been graded. Might even let you know how many Marvels and DC's. That certainly wouldn't be an invasion of any collectors privacy.

I asked him once about the totals for the Green River Collection... and he was very forthcoming. Heck of a nice guy too, and since you know him..... :)

[Red Hook]

http://www.cgccomics.com/news/enews/2008/November/article6.asp

What I want to know is who pressed them. I won't accept anyone's work other than Matt Nelson! #oldie#

[cgc-world]

I'm pretty sure that Matt did them, as he was brought in by Heritage to valuate the run.

Jim

[jackie0109]

I will check that copy as soon as I finish off with my batch of comics list.

[Red Hook]

I'm pretty sure that Matt did them, as he was brought in by Heritage to valuate the run.

Jim

How nice for him. :roll:

[Red Hook]

...... and a hats off to Jim, CGC-World, as he ends his White Mountain quest. Heading of into the Golden Age.


Best of luck dude.... on your new mission!


Red

[nepatkm]

Just received this book. Not in the silver age, but it is a White Mountain #cloud9#
Tomb of Dracula #13--origin of blade



http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u154/nepatkm/300-0809-131a.jpg

[Red Hook]

Interesting. I didn't realize the White Mountain collection extended to that late date. Nice Book!