The Ohio Pedigree

[cgc-world]

Another pedigree that I am a huge fan of, and not only because I just finished writing the chapter of the pedigree book due to be released in the near future. One of the pedigrees that spans across the GA, SA and even BA eras. Found by Nelson Dodds, they exhibit higher than normal page quality. They also exhibit distinguishing marks on their books. For the Silver Age portion of the pedigree, most books are marked with heavy grease pencil arrival dates as seen in one of the newest addition to my collection.

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i195/cgc-world/OhioAvengers4.jpg

Avengers #4

Jim

[Red Hook]

I'm a fan of the Ohio collection. #oldie#

[cgc-world]

I agree Red...any peds with identifiable marks rate very highly in my books. WM's, Ohios and GR's amongst the best.

Jim

[ryan elliott]

Another pedigree that I am a huge fan of, and not only because I just finished writing the chapter of the pedigree book due to be released in the near future. One of the pedigrees that spans across the GA, SA and even BA eras. Found by Nelson Dodds, they exhibit higher than normal page quality. They also exhibit distinguishing marks on their books. For the Silver Age portion of the pedigree, most books are marked with heavy grease pencil arrival dates as seen in one of the newest addition to my collection.


http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i195/cgc-world/OhioAvengers4.jpg


Avengers #4

Jim
Congrats,
A very sharp book

[razorz000]

How can you tell that a certian book is pedigree is no documentation is with it -- also how does ones collection become pedigree

[Red Hook]

Razor.... check out my little intro about pedigrees here....

http://www.comicscorral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2759

hopefully that will help answer some of your questions.

Red

[Red Hook]

Also, regarding books without documentation... here is some info...


When a pedigree doesn't contain any "obvious" visual indicators like a date stamp or a signature, then provenance becomes crucial. In other words, the submitter has to show proof of who he bought the book from (like an invoice) and hopefully it can be traced to a reputable dealer or collector who is directly associated with procuring books from the pedigree.

Someone at "the big grading company", may rely also on an accumulation of factors like similar page quality and even page smell. Do non-pedigree books get slabbed mistakenly as pedigree books? I'm sure it happens. But I would say that in this area, someone like Mark Haspel, who is a pedigree expert is pretty reliable.

Sometimes, CGC and a big dealer may disagree. That has happened at times with Metropolis and Mile High books. Then, the purchaser gets stuck in the middle, having bought a raw book at a price with the pedigree premium, and having CGC refuse to certify it as a book from that pedigree. Doesn't happen often, but it does.

[toz1960]

Hmmmm.This is really interesting.About 3 years ago I picked up a straight run of JIM/Thor from #99 up to 127 and they a ll had the arrival dates in grease pen.None were nearly that good,most had a heavy dust shadow down the spine but there were some really nice ones.Not saying these are part of the Ohio pedrigree but it is possibel they might have been bought at the same place.

I got them on feebay and can't remember who the seller was but I do remember that they wern't too far away from me and it does seem like it was an Ohio address.

Here is a scan of one.Whadda ya think?

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t216/madrigal2112/thor127001.jpg?t=1210983815

[toz1960]

Crap.Didn't work.Let's try this.


http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t216/madrigal2112/thor127001.jpg

[Red Hook]

That's a sweet looking book! Here's your scan...

http://www.macartistry.com/pedigrees/ohio/thor127.jpg

Hard to say...dates applied in grease pencil may be more common than you think. I would certainly think it's a possible candidate worth a closer look.

Red

[cgc-world]

Apparently the entire Ohio area used heavy grease pencil as distribution marks back in the day...dust shadows aren't usually found on actual Ohios though. What is the page quality of the books?

Jim

[DKB]

I've got a verified (came from Nelson) Ohio that kinda matches that date stamp from the same time period. It's a 2-3. However, in this case, its not grease pencil. The Silver and Bronze ohios are primarily black grease pencil. 90% of the time. However, there's been blue marker, black marker. It's black marker in this case.

I'd have to see more to completely rule it out, but its likely you've just got a close match.

[Hoss]

Welcome to the Corral, DKB!

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[Red Hook]

Yes, welcome Mr. D!

Red

#allhailme#

[Mariner]

<<<They also exhibit distinguishing marks on their books. For the Silver Age portion of the pedigree, most books are marked with heavy grease pencil arrival dates >>>

Can't help but feel that pedigree books are sometimes given a pass on things that would be considered defects on other books.

[DKB]

<<<They also exhibit distinguishing marks on their books. For the Silver Age portion of the pedigree, most books are marked with heavy grease pencil arrival dates >>>

Can't help but feel that pedigree books are sometimes given a pass on things that would be considered defects on other books.

Not a pass, just a level of coolness that makes up for it. The ability to tie a collection together by distinctive markings like you can with so many pedigrees is just plain fun.

[Red Hook]

Agreed!

It means something to some people and absolutely nothing to others. Which pretty much explains what collecting anything is all about.

:p

[buried_alien]

No action here for a while - hope this one brings a few more out of the woodwork!

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