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disneyteddies
11-04-2008, 06:42 AM
- green label (used very sparsely, indicates an apparent grade, meaning the comic has a small missing piece that doesn’t affect the story in any way and is in very good condition and should receive a much higher grade even though it has the one minor defect)


Fair (1.0): Shows heavy wear. Some collectors consider this the lowest collectible grade because comic books in lesser condition are usually incomplete and/or brittle. Cover may be detached, and inks have lost all reflectivity. Creases, tears and/or folds are prevalent. Corners are commonly rounded or absent. Soiling and staining is present. Books in this condition generally have all pages and most of the covers, although there may be up to 1/4 of the front cover missing or no back cover, but not both. Tape and other forms of amateur repair are more common. Spine roll is more common; spine split can extend up to 2/3 the length of the book. Staples may be missing or show rust and discoloration. An accumulation of staple tears and stress lines may be present, as well as rust migration. Paper is brown and may show brittleness around the edges but not in the central portion of the pages. Acidic odour may be present. Accumulation of interior tears. Chunks may be missing. The centerfold may be missing if readability is generally preserved (although there may be difficulty). Coupons may be cut.

Poor (0.5): Sufficiently degraded to the point where there is little or no collector value; easily identified by a complete absence of eye appeal. Brittle almost to the point of turning to dust with a touch, and usually incomplete. Extreme fading may render the cover almost indiscernible. May have extremely severe stains, mildew or heavy cover abrasion to the point that some cover inks are indistinct/absent. Covers may be detached with large chunks missing. Can have extremely ragged edges and extensive creasing. Corners are rounded or virtually absent. Covers may have been defaced with paints, varnished, glues, oil, indelible markers or dyes, and may have suffered heavy water damage. Can also have extensive amateur repairs such as laminated covers. Extreme spine roll present; can have extremely ragged spines or a complete, book-length split. Staples can be missing or show extreme rust and discoloration. Extensive staple tears and stress lines may be present, as well as extreme rust migration. Paper exhibits moderate to severe brittleness (where the comic book literally falls apart when examined). Extreme acidic odour may be present. Extensive interior tears. Multiple pages, including the centerfold, may be missing that affect readability. Coupons may be cut.

Now WHY is this book an apparent 3.5 when it says in the label "missing centerfold that greatly affects the story".??


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v633/Hank27/Qualifiedmissingcenterfold.jpg

jaydeebee
11-04-2008, 02:12 PM
It must be an exceptionally nice copy otherwise. Kind of like one of those "Near Mint as long as you ignore the vomit stained back cover" deals.

stupidman
11-04-2008, 03:21 PM
If it was a Silver Age comic it wouldn't be in a Green label.

disneyteddies
11-05-2008, 05:40 AM
Exactly what I think..one of the major dealers in the OPG always brags that his grades are "strict and accurate" yet he always goes on to say if they are appraised they routinely go from VGF's to a fine+ to a Norway near mint (whatever the hell that is). To me that is NOT accurate grading at all. Green label is crap....would be a ten if it didn't have tire marks across the first 37 pages....I've seen a lot of ebay lots with that kind of description lately. "I'm not a professional grader but it's in good shape and would be mint if not for the 36 small defects".

illuminated
11-18-2008, 10:23 PM
Try this one on for size. (http://cgi.ebay.com/World-War-III-3-CGCed-Very-Rare-inside-is-1_W0QQitemZ230306758847QQihZ013QQcategoryZ155290QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

disneyteddies
12-05-2008, 04:44 AM
That makes more sense..it's just a small printing error so the book shouldn't be punished and unlike the Superman one, it does NOT affect readability at all.

Silverdream
12-29-2008, 08:04 AM
The CGC Green label is completly confusing and they never follow their own rules.

If someone could explain to me why a copy of wolverine # 75 that is missing its hologram pulls a green label, while a copy of Venom: lethal protector #1 thats missing its red foil pulls a blue label..... I would like to hear it.

Silverdream
12-29-2008, 08:12 AM
Shouldnt this be a G/VG at most according to O/S (http://cgi.ebay.com/Rawhide-Kid-69-CGC-9-2-Qualified-Green-Label_W0QQitemZ160225961274QQihZ006QQcategoryZ3978 QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp16 38Q2em118Q2el1247)


Nope it looks sooo purty we gotta slap a 9.2 on it !!!!!!!

I mean really From the cover AND first wrap..... Qualified? Why? Its a staple pull, not even a manufactures defect.

illuminated
01-03-2009, 09:30 PM
- green label (used very sparsely, indicates an apparent grade, meaning the comic has a small missing piece that doesn’t affect the story in any way and is in very good condition and should receive a much higher grade even though it has the one minor defect)



I think you mean "qualified" where you state "apparent".

Not sure where the definition you have comes from. Not sure what CGC's actual definition is, but I always thought it was more vague than specifying that pieces had to be missing. Also, I thought that it had to be a major (not minor) defect.

Irregardless, I doubt that CGC doesn't wander from their own guidelines.

Qualified grades are pretty dumb. Better off giving the real grade and explaining major defects (especially hidden ones) on the label, IMO.

disneyteddies
01-04-2009, 09:03 PM
Thanx Illuminated, you are correct in my "apparent" use of qualified. To me I used the word apparent because that is what the book could have graded ..apparently. I should have used the proper term qualified.

As for the definition I got it from my notes which I put into my own words that I got from either a cgc site or one of the overstreets...not sure where but I guess I could have been more clear on it. And yes it should be a major defect from what I've learned.

Sheesh.. talk about screwing up my own thread LoL!

disneyteddies
07-01-2009, 06:15 AM
WoW, lot's of this crap getting by the censors lately... and even digging up old trash.

oxbladder
07-01-2009, 06:09 PM
The problem with qualified books, IMO, is that they pretty much serve to throw people off on how to grade a book that has a major defect but is otherwise in great shape. Now in the example above I would probably grade it fair or less. That fair or less would be the stated and prominently displayed and state why it grades that low. THAT is being fair to the book and the perspective buyer. I have always used that method and it has served me well and, imo, gives people a better idea how to grade those rare exception cases.

tiptophimp
12-22-2010, 10:07 PM
It all depends on the grader in some of the older jobs.