Southern states

[razorz000]

The wife and I have been putting some serious thought in to moving down to some southern states and we have 2 locations in mind:

Georgia

Texas

We both can't take the cold in Chicago any longer and need to go some where warm..

Any thoughts about these states ???

[marvelguy]

What's wrong with NC? You'll have the best of both worlds, basketball and BBQ! :D

[razorz000]

What's wrong with NC? You'll have the best of both worlds, basketball and BBQ! :D


#professor# Don't want cold weather ..

[jaydeebee]

Cold weather in NC lasts about as long as a donut at a police convention.

[razorz000]

Cold weather in NC lasts about as long as a donut at a police convention.


#rofl##rofl#

[jaydeebee]

Besides, where else can you visit places like Pilot Mt. (Mt. Pilot), Mount Airy, Siler City? Why it's like the Andy Griffith Show everyday there!

[malaprop]

I was stationed in Texas twice while in the military, San Antonio and San Angelo, and I liked it. Of course at the time I was single and my two greatest interests were drinking beer and shooting pool, so I fit in rather well. I don't know how I'd like it now.

[fulltimer56]

You can't take the cold but can you take the heat?

Texas summers can be very hot, it ain't uncommon to have over half the summer with temps at or over 100 (that's around the Dallas area) then again I have seen it snow in Dallas along with ice storms in the winter, then you have the Gulf coast with the very high Humidity along with the high heat along with hurricane in the summer & fall.

Georgia have very high summers too but we can have some pretty cold weather too, like right now with the temps going to be in the teens tonight plus we are in the middle of a drought. Of course we ain't having as much trouble with it as the North Georgia area is having.

What kind of work do you and your wife do, razorz? Georgia is losing jobs left and right, right now. We have had two large companies here in Griffin close down with about 1000 folks out of work and that's just in the last few weeks.

Of course every area have things going for them!

Linda

[razorz000]

You can't take the cold but can you take the heat?

Texas summers can be very hot, it ain't uncommon to have over half the summer with temps at or over 100 (that's around the Dallas area) then again I have seen it snow in Dallas along with ice storms in the winter, then you have the Gulf coast with the very high Humidity along with the high heat along with hurricane in the summer & fall.

Georgia have very high summers too but we can have some pretty cold weather too, like right now with the temps going to be in the teens tonight plus we are in the middle of a drought. Of course we ain't having as much trouble with it as the North Georgia area is having.

What kind of work do you and your wife do, razorz? Georgia is losing jobs left and right, right now. We have had two large companies here in Griffin close down with about 1000 folks out of work and that's just in the last few weeks.

Of course every area have things going for them!

Linda

Right now were looking at macon or columbus in GA. & dallas-ft worth in Tx.

My wife is in accounting & I work in manufacturing *plastics assembly & injection molding* and selling comic books ....LOL.....

[Reilsdad]

Linda, don't forget about the humidity. July and August in GA can be miserable even to someone used to it.

Razor, what Jay said about winter in NC is the same for winter in VA. Since I moved here things have been fairly mild. Yeah, it gets cold but snowfall here in Richmond is almost nonexistant. My wife and I joke that there's a bubble around Richmond because whenever they call for snow, everywhere around us will get some but we won't. I attribute it to all the hot air from the politicians at the state capital. :p Last night we got a dusting of snow -- this morning the ground looked like a powdered sugar donut but it was gone by noon.

Of the three you mentioned, DFW would be my preference and I'm originally from GA. Columbus and Macon are okay, but wouldn't be my first preferences. Columbus always struck me as a fairly rough town and Macon a little better, but I haven't spent enough time in either one to adequately judge. Cost of living might be higher in DFW, though. What about a small to midsize town like Rome or Canton, GA?

[grininbarrett]

I grew up in Jacksonville, FL and moved to Tampa about 15 years ago. My brother has lived in Chicago for the last 15 years and I have more family in Georgia and San Antonio.

I also agree that Macon would not be one of my choices. I am not familiar with Columbus but I doubt that it is very different from many of the other cities of the same size in GA which are fine places to visit, but there is no way I could live there.

Also, that far north in GA is still a little to cold for my native Floridian blood especially since Tampa is about 10 degrees warmer than Jax almost all the time in the winter.

TX would compare far more favorably to Chicago than anywhere in GA as far as I am concerned.

But if you really want to get out of the cold, anywhere from Tampa on South has virtually no winter to speak of. Sarasota has a lot to offer, although real estate in the town limits is a little pricey. Also there are lots of places on the east coast from the Cape southward. Stay away from the middle of the state including Orlando, as the coastal regions often have a breeze in the summer but the middle of the state is far more often unbearably hot and humid.

[pasnat54]

Texas summers can be unbearably hot, and the landscape is dreary. Long, flat expanses of nothingness.

I'm not familiar with Georgia, but if I were moving down south, North Carolina would be my first choice. The weather is usually mild, harsh winters are rare, you're close to the ocean and the mountains, and it's very pretty and green.

I used to live there, in the Research Triangle area, so called because it's ringed by Duke University, UNC and NC State. Always lots to do there, great weather and a slower pace of life. And my second choice would be South Carolina. I love Charleston, even though the comic books they publish are rather mediocre.

[marvelguy]

Texas summers can be unbearably hot, and the landscape is dreary. Long, flat expanses of nothingness.

I'm not familiar with Georgia, but if I were moving down south, North Carolina would be my first choice. The weather is usually mild, harsh winters are rare, you're close to the ocean and the mountains, and it's very pretty and green.

I used to live there, in the Research Triangle area, so called because it's ringed by Duke University, UNC and NC State. Always lots to do there, great weather and a slower pace of life. And my second choice would be South Carolina. I love Charleston, even though the comic books they publish are rather mediocre.


Yes, the close proximity to the beaches is a plus! NC beaches is one of the wonders of the world. ;)

[razorz000]

Linda, don't forget about the humidity. July and August in GA can be miserable even to someone used to it.

Razor, what Jay said about winter in NC is the same for winter in VA. Since I moved here things have been fairly mild. Yeah, it gets cold but snowfall here in Richmond is almost nonexistant. My wife and I joke that there's a bubble around Richmond because whenever they call for snow, everywhere around us will get some but we won't. I attribute it to all the hot air from the politicians at the state capital. :p Last night we got a dusting of snow -- this morning the ground looked like a powdered sugar donut but it was gone by noon.

Of the three you mentioned, DFW would be my preference and I'm originally from GA. Columbus and Macon are okay, but wouldn't be my first preferences. Columbus always struck me as a fairly rough town and Macon a little better, but I haven't spent enough time in either one to adequately judge. Cost of living might be higher in DFW, though. What about a small to midsize town like Rome or Canton, GA?

We have enough vacation to look around still but we also wanted to stay out of hurrican weather as well because I was all for going to florida..
Time is on are side right now so we aren't just jumping into something.

My lady had seen this thread and has put NC down to check out but not sure when, she liked how people commented the nice things about the state.

Thank you everyone for your input ... :p

[Capitalrecoveryman]

I lived in 3 cities in Georgia; Macon, Savannah and Augusta. I could possibly convince my wife to ever move back to Macon for a 500K annual salary. Short of that, no chance.

Quite frankly, if I were thinking of packing up my wife and 2 kids, if a decent job was available, I'd move to Lakeland, FL. It has the amenities of a big city with the feel of a smaller area. It's also under an hour one direction from Orlando and under an hour from Tampa the other direction. Kid heaven.

[dc kev]

As a lifelong Texan, you can imagine which I would recommend!:D

I've lived in DFW for about 13 years now, and while the traffic is horrible at times, and there is virtually no public transportation, it does have its draws, especially for comic collectors.

We have 4-5 comic/sci-fi conventions a year, 2-3 exceptional comic shops, and the absolute BEST used bookstore chain in the world.

As far as the job market goes, we are doing pretty well. The economy has hit here, but not as hard as other areas. There are still jobs here, due mainly to the diversity of the industries calling DFW home.

Shopping is extremely plentiful. I live in North Dallas, and there are 6 Target stores (in shopping centers or malls) within 15 minutes drive of my home.

As far as weather, there is a saying...If you don't like the weather in Texas, give it 10 minutes and it'll change. That's pretty much true. In the past week, we've had an ice storm where temperatures were in the teens, and yesterday was 70 degrees. Today is 56. Up and down, up and down.

Hope that helps, and if you have any specific questions about the area, I'd be happy to answer them.

[Reilsdad]

We have enough vacation to look around still but we also wanted to stay out of hurrican weather as well because I was all for going to florida.

That may nix anything coastal from VA Beach south. We've gotten the effects of hurricanes here in Richmond but they're usually down to tropical storms at most when they come through. Even then it can be pretty tough -- google "Hurricane Gaston". I'm sure the same can be said for any area in GA and the Carolinas as far inland as Raleigh.

[fulltimer56]

You might have a better change of getting a job in the Atlanta area but you can always live in a small town around Atlanta. Most of the areas north of Atlanta have rail and/or bus service but south of Atlanta only has bus service in Clayton Co. but we do have park & rides as far south as McDonough and McDonough is only about a 15 minute drive from Griffin. I don't know much about the Macon or Columbus area. But I do know that the crime rate in the Dallas area is way up and is one of the reasons that Arthur and I moved from there and Arthur is a native Texan too! Of course the Atlanta area ain't much better either but then I don't live in Atlanta. ;)

Will y'all be moving with the companies you are working for now or will you be moving and having to look for new jobs? JMHO if y'all have good jobs, don't rock the boat and stay with them. The job market is very very scary. Hell, I'm driving for Dominos because I wasn't able to find anything else and all my job training has been accounting and/or bookkeeping, office, etc. but then again it's because I don't want to work in Atlanta plus I'm over 50 and I don't care what anyone says it's harder to find a job when you hit the big 50.

What I'm saying is really, really think hard about making a move at this time!

Linda

[fulltimer56]

I lived in 3 cities in Georgia; Macon, Savannah and Augusta. I could possibly convince my wife to ever move back to Macon for a 500K annual salary. Short of that, no chance.

Quite frankly, if I were thinking of packing up my wife and 2 kids, if a decent job was available, I'd move to Lakeland, FL. It has the amenities of a big city with the feel of a smaller area. It's also under an hour one direction from Orlando and under an hour from Tampa the other direction. Kid heaven.

I'm a native Floridian myself (born in Jacksonville in 1956) and I can 2nd the Lakeland choice. It's a very nice area, don't really have to worry about bad weather (storms) but it's still gets pretty warm but remember it is Florida and capital is right, it's close to all the "Kid Heaven" area without having to live in it all the time!! I still have family in the area too!

Linda

[fulltimer56]

I knew that dc kev would be checking in and he is right about the shopping, the comic stores and conventions. But then again he is right about having NO good public transportation unless you live in the Oak Cliff area which you don't want to live (unless it has gotten better since 1993 or so)

Don't get me wrong, I loved living in the Dallas area (I lived in the Mesquite, Garland area) for over 17 years and met my hubby there (best part)! How's the crime rate there now, dc kev?

Linda


As a lifelong Texan, you can imagine which I would recommend!:D

I've lived in DFW for about 13 years now, and while the traffic is horrible at times, and there is virtually no public transportation, it does have its draws, especially for comic collectors.

We have 4-5 comic/sci-fi conventions a year, 2-3 exceptional comic shops, and the absolute BEST used bookstore chain in the world.

As far as the job market goes, we are doing pretty well. The economy has hit here, but not as hard as other areas. There are still jobs here, due mainly to the diversity of the industries calling DFW home.

Shopping is extremely plentiful. I live in North Dallas, and there are 6 Target stores (in shopping centers or malls) within 15 minutes drive of my home.

As far as weather, there is a saying...If you don't like the weather in Texas, give it 10 minutes and it'll change. That's pretty much true. In the past week, we've had an ice storm where temperatures were in the teens, and yesterday was 70 degrees. Today is 56. Up and down, up and down.

Hope that helps, and if you have any specific questions about the area, I'd be happy to answer them.

[vathgar]

I moved to Charleston SC from NJ about 20 years ago and have enjoyed it the whole time. We have had to live through one major hurricane (Hugo in 89) and a few other storms but none enough to make me want to leave this area.

I did extensive travel around the Southeast in the early 90s and have to say that Macon and Columbus GA were to of the places I enjoyed the least. As extreme as your winters are up north the summers are just as unbearable down here. Before I moved down south many years ago I always said it would be nice to live in a warm climate. Most inland parts of the Southeast until you get into the mountains are blazing hot in the summer.

The coastal cities may come with the threat of hurricanes but many of your inland cities also have more frequent major thunderstorms and tornados. Six in one hand half dozen in another.

We love it here in Charleston but Asheville NC and the surrounding areas are the one place that the wife and I would consider moving to. Great weather, gorgeous scenery, lots of neat things to do and a bunch of folks with a really positive energy to them. Not a lot of crazy hustle and bustle.

Also, I am in plastics manufacturing and if you have a job right now I would sit tight for a little while. We are laying off (as are our customers and suppliers) right and left with no end in sight for at least the next twelve months.

Good luck and if you have any questions about SC feel free to PM me.

[pasnat54]

Asheville! Another terrific spot. I lived in central Carolina and tend to forget about western Carolina. It's a little cool there in winter, but anyone who's lived in Minnesota or Nunavit or Wisconsin will think the winters are balmy.

It's at the base of the Great Smokey Mountains, and is really beautiful. And check out the Biltmore Mansion, probably the largest private residence in the country. That was where I learned my girlfriend should not be allowed behind the wheel of a car after attending a wine-tasting. Good thing she drove a 4-wheel drive Jeep Cherokee.

[Capitalrecoveryman]

I moved to Charleston SC from NJ about 20 years ago and have enjoyed it the whole time. We have had to live through one major hurricane (Hugo in 89) and a few other storms but none enough to make me want to leave this area.

I did extensive travel around the Southeast in the early 90s and have to say that Macon and Columbus GA were to of the places I enjoyed the least. As extreme as your winters are up north the summers are just as unbearable down here. Before I moved down south many years ago I always said it would be nice to live in a warm climate. Most inland parts of the Southeast until you get into the mountains are blazing hot in the summer.

The coastal cities may come with the threat of hurricanes but many of your inland cities also have more frequent major thunderstorms and tornados. Six in one hand half dozen in another.

We love it here in Charleston but Asheville NC and the surrounding areas are the one place that the wife and I would consider moving to. Great weather, gorgeous scenery, lots of neat things to do and a bunch of folks with a really positive energy to them. Not a lot of crazy hustle and bustle.

Also, I am in plastics manufacturing and if you have a job right now I would sit tight for a little while. We are laying off (as are our customers and suppliers) right and left with no end in sight for at least the next twelve months.

Good luck and if you have any questions about SC feel free to PM me.

I'm a hundred miles up I-26 from you. We'll probably hit the aquarium Saturday afternoon after a stop in N. Charleston at the Tanger Outlet.

[vathgar]

I live about 2 miles from Tanger, one of our good friends is a partner with the developer. A bunch of pretty neat stores. The only comic shop in town is about 5 miles from there on Sam Rittenberg (Hwy 7) there is an exit off the interstate to get there. If you miss it don't worry, you won't miss much. They have plenty of new stuff and get the occasional decent piece of silver or bronze but nothing to write home about.

If you are going to be in town for dinner I would recommend EVO pizzaria in Olde North Charleston. They are about 2 miles from Tanger and really easy to get to. They are more of a restaurant who's specialty is pizza and not a pizza joint. Here is a link to their website:

http://evopizza.com/

Really fantastic food (all fresh and local) and a pretty good selection of beer and wine. When there is sausage or smoked salmon on the menu, they have made it themselves. They get there every day at 6am and start making the dough for the pizzas and breads they will be selling that day. Can't say enough about them.

I would say come on by my house (about a block and a half from EVO) and I will show off some comics but we are just moving in after a one and a half year long renovation and I am not sure if the comics will be situated at that point or if the wife can put up with another comic book gee......er.....fan.

There is also a really cool little Irish pub down the street from there that most folks from out of town, and alot from in town, don't even know about.

If you need any more tips for other places to eat let me know and I can give you places to go and not to go depending on what area of town you are going to be in.

[Capitalrecoveryman]

I live about 2 miles from Tanger, one of our good friends is a partner with the developer. A bunch of pretty neat stores. The only comic shop in town is about 5 miles from there on Sam Rittenberg (Hwy 7) there is an exit off the interstate to get there. If you miss it don't worry, you won't miss much. They have plenty of new stuff and get the occasional decent piece of silver or bronze but nothing to write home about.

If you are going to be in town for dinner I would recommend EVO pizzaria in Olde North Charleston. They are about 2 miles from Tanger and really easy to get to. They are more of a restaurant who's specialty is pizza and not a pizza joint. Here is a link to their website:

http://evopizza.com/

Really fantastic food (all fresh and local) and a pretty good selection of beer and wine. When there is sausage or smoked salmon on the menu, they have made it themselves. They get there every day at 6am and start making the dough for the pizzas and breads they will be selling that day. Can't say enough about them.

I would say come on by my house (about a block and a half from EVO) and I will show off some comics but we are just moving in after a one and a half year long renovation and I am not sure if the comics will be situated at that point or if the wife can put up with another comic book gee......er.....fan.

There is also a really cool little Irish pub down the street from there that most folks from out of town, and alot from in town, don't even know about.

If you need any more tips for other places to eat let me know and I can give you places to go and not to go depending on what area of town you are going to be in.

Thanks for the tip. I have a 5-year-old and 3-year-old (a second reason not to barge in on your wife) so a local pizzeria sounds like a perfect ticket. Our modus operandi is to hit the outlet, eat a food court lunch, buy stuff we don't need, go to the aquarium until 5, grab some dinner, head back to Lexington.

While I'm thinking about it, on the 28th in Columbia is the annual small but usually decent comic book and toy show at the Jamil Temple. If you come up, let me know and I'll buy you lunch somewhere on St Andrews road.

John

[vathgar]

Not sure if I can make it to the show, I am supposed to be working that weekend. If the furlough that they have been talking about at work happens then who knows, I might just be taking you up on the free lunch! If it goes really bad I might be setting up a table there to unload some stuff.

EVO does not have a kids menu but I do see folks in there with kids all the time (we are MiNKs - Married No Kids) and they all seem to do just fine. Kinda hard to go wrong with gourmet pizza and usually if you ask they can do some reasonable special requests.

Tanger does have a Golden Corral buffet which for buffets is not bad (much better than Ryan's/Quincy's) but it is fairly new and a mob scene on Saturday afternoons. I honestly can't say what they have at the Tanger food court, we usually just go to the store we need and bailout. There are plenty of other chain type places to eat around Tanger, but stay away from Center Point Bar and Grill, horrible food, atmosphere and service.

Once I can get settled in this house and can the economy straightens out so my job is stable I will be attending more shows and doing a little more travel. Right now I obviously have to be in conservation mode.

[spacecitycomics]

Houston = everything you could want. When he was done making Houston,
God turned to the side, spit, and created Dallas.

[razorz000]

WOW !!!!

Thank you to everyone who has chimed in on this thread.. LOTS of great info .... :D

I have alot of family in Houston and it's a great city just don't want to be so close to family ... I did mention Florida to the lady to day and that might even be a thought as I've always liked the state everytime I've been their.

If I was to pick once place to live ....... it wouldn't be in the united states

I'd go to PANAMA ....#allhailme#

[eobcards]

I've been here in St. Pete., FL for 37 years and really love it here. Property insurance is really expensive but property taxes aren't that bad.

If I did want to move, and since I'm retired and not looking for a job, I would pick the NC/SC area. It's beautiful up there, and the cost of living is a lot less than here.

[vathgar]

North Charleston, SC 1800 sqft home with 1000sqft detached garage on 1/4 acre tax appraised at $240K is about $1400 per year in property taxes and $1200 per year for full replacement value property insurance. I am in a premium historic district so the price per square foot is a little higher than most other normal parts of town. Plenty of similar size homes for around 170-200K in the area.

[Capitalrecoveryman]

Middle-class suburb here in mid-SC. 1,600 square feet, 3 bedrooms, 2 1/2 baths, office with french doors, 2 car garage, back patio, big back yard. 125K. You can practically buy a palace for 300K.

[vathgar]

Yep, Charleston is a little pricier and the neighborhood I am in is even moreso. Lots of other parts of the state where real estate is pretty darn inexpensive.

[razorz000]

Middle-class suburb here in mid-SC. 1,600 square feet, 3 bedrooms, 2 1/2 baths, office with french doors, 2 car garage, back patio, big back yard. 125K. You can practically buy a palace for 300K.

My wife has been reading these posts and she has marked down

South Carolina #allhailme#

as one place to check out & she was wondering the job market for S.C ??

We were checking out plantation houses & some property online but need to see stuff in person to really get the feeling.

[grininbarrett]

The Weather channel and their ilk have really blown hurricanes completely out of proportion. They sensationalize everything because it gets people in Oklahoma hooked on watching our "natural disaster". Over the last 30 years in Florida I have had one issue due to hurricanes, and the problem was likely due to contractor error, on a new home I purchased. Normally if you live more than 20 miles inland it is not an issue.

The funny thing is up until a few years ago there was one of the local meteorologists who had been around forever, who always told it like it was, ie; "It's three days away don't bother getting in an uproar because it probably will A) Turn and make landfall a couple hundred miles away B) be no worse than a summer storm when it does, etc. Just about everybody else (even on his own network) was doing the "Hurricane preparedness" spots and the "Batten down the hatches, this could be the big one"

[Silverdream]

I live in central Texas and the weather is aright, not cold much, but its the consistancy that drives me nuts, 95 one day, 63 the next.... sigh

[Quato]

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[razorz000]

Middle-class suburb here in mid-SC. 1,600 square feet, 3 bedrooms, 2 1/2 baths, office with french doors, 2 car garage, back patio, big back yard. 125K. You can practically buy a palace for 300K.

I couldn't believe the prices for homes in SC as my wife and I were looking at greenville & columbia tonight... ;)

[Capitalrecoveryman]

Yep, I live in Lexington, a small town right outside of Columbia. Greenville is really nice also.

[Quato]

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[razorz000]

I may be wrong, but usually if the prices are fairly cheap in a community, that means there aren't any good paying jobs in that area either.

Q

For what we were looking at the 2 larger citys in which we checked out the houses were very nice. We have saved up over the years to be able to do this kinda move and we are going down in the fall to meet with realiters and I've already send out resume's to get a feeling on the job market.

We have also look online at the schools & community the best we can but won't know until we are actually their. We don't plan on holding a morgage on any home we choose to purchase and that's a nice treat we have planned for a long~long time and went with out many times as well so we could one day do this. :)

[Quato]

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[Capitalrecoveryman]

I may be wrong, but usually if the prices are fairly cheap in a community, that means there aren't any good paying jobs in that area either.

Q

I just know about the 2 in this household, which quite frankly are the only 2 I get overly concerned about.

[Capitalrecoveryman]

Hey vathgar, if you're still reading this, we ate at RB's over in Mt. Pleasant after the aquarium trip and enjoyed it. There are a bunch of restaraunts in that area. Any others over there we should try?

[Quato]

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[pasnat54]

Sorry to hear about that, quato. We've had a couple murder-suicides within a week or two of each other in the LA area, not to mention an estranged husband who wiped out his ex's family in West Covina then killed himself when he realized his escape plans were not going to work.

The family down near the harbor left a note saying they didn't want anyone else to raise their kids, so they killed them. Five dead.

Even if a person thinks that he or she has no other option but to kill himself, I can't understand why they rob the children of the chance to have a full life.

[razorz000]

Sorry to hear about that, quato. We've had a couple murder-suicides within a week or two of each other in the LA area, not to mention an estranged husband who wiped out his ex's family in West Covina then killed himself when he realized his escape plans were not going to work.

The family down near the harbor left a note saying they didn't want anyone else to raise their kids, so they killed them. Five dead.

Even if a person thinks that he or she has no other option but to kill himself, I can't understand why they rob the children of the chance to have a full life.

I'm not going to give the answer that most want to hear but it's all reallity.

This is very sad when people have come to this point in their lifes BUT their are other ways to make your life full and people to turn to for this.

Why would someone take the lives of their children ~ simple it's an easier way to remove them from what has happened to the parent then to let them struggle in life, even though everyone has to do this at some point.
And most of the people who do this do not believe in " GOD " and think life is all about material things.

[Quato]

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[razorz000]

You are correct. My friend did not believe in God. Once he was out of answers, he did not believe divine intervention could change his situation.

I did not intend on changing the subject of the thread, but I was trying to convey that we are all affected by the problems which affect others.

""All mankind is of one author, and is one volume; when one man dies, one chapter is not torn out of the book, but translated into a better language; and every chapter must be so translated...As therefore the bell that rings to a sermon, calls not upon the preacher only, but upon the congregation to come: so this bell calls us all: but how much more me, who am brought so near the door by this sickness....No man is an island, entire of itself...any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind; and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee." John Donne (1572-1631)
The housing market is depressed because families are struggling. With the housing market distressed, that is causing more families to struggle.

I was very close to my grandmother who was 30 years old when the Great Depression was at it worst. I've been pondering a lot of advice she used to tell me.

Q

I have to say thank you to everyone who has chimed in with comments and thoughts... as it really is a time to think about what this world has come to and where it's going.

Now you can take this comment with a grain of salt or a grain of sugar but never had I thought I would see the day that this world would crumble and see a power come into office that would free everyone from worry.
Now if you don't believe in "GOD" then you might want to read something else.. We as people have seen history repete it's self over & over but the world today is much different and was stated in the BIBLE as something to watch for. Mass deaths have gone up ~ a great nation has fallen to it's knees ~ those who will not go hungery will hold the mark of the beast.. Just some thoughts..

[fulltimer56]

Hi rarorz,

You check these stories out:

http://msn.careerbuilder.com/Article/MSN-1772-Job-Search-15-Worst-States-to-Find-Work

http://msn.careerbuilder.com/Article/MSN-1795-Job-Search-Where-the-Work-Is

Linda

[razorz000]

Hi rarorz,

You check these stories out:

http://msn.careerbuilder.com/Article/MSN-1772-Job-Search-15-Worst-States-to-Find-Work

http://msn.careerbuilder.com/Article/MSN-1795-Job-Search-Where-the-Work-Is

Linda

OMG !!!! :shock:

All the states we were looking to go to are being hit the hardest .. Well maybe we'll wait until thing look brighter before doing anything.

[bluebolt7]

I live in a small town in southwest Georgia that's about an hour's drive north of Albany. Seems like it's easier to find a chicken with lips than it is to find a business that's hiring! :(

I've heard it said that Georgia has two economies, Atlanta and everywhere else. I don't know about Atlanta but everywhere else seems to have a depressed economy.

[razorz000]

The wife and I have been putting some serious thought in to moving down to some southern states and we have 2 locations in mind:

Georgia

Texas

We both can't take the cold in Chicago any longer and need to go some where warm..

Any thoughts about these states ???


After doing much research and trying to figure out what is best for our family the wife and I have choosen .... HOUSTON, TX ....

I have family thier and have researched the job market an looks like the best place for a northern person to go... I know - I know " IT IS HOT THEIR " I have been their when it's hot and as soon as my thick blood thins I'll be fine ~ but ~ I don't want to take a comic store worth of books with me. As many of you know I have been trying to down size this mass asortment of books the best I can and I have been listing as many as I can in the sellers forum DIRT CHEAP ..... :shock:

We have put the house up for sale and With the help of GOD we have until the end of August to have things in place for my son and school & signed for a new home down south.

I know thing are tough right now but this is something the family needs and has to do.

[marvelguy]

Good luck on the move and the stuff that comes with it. Houston should be a fine place to live.

[razorz000]

Good luck on the move and the stuff that comes with it. Houston should be a fine place to live.

Thanks MG .... I know my son will love it, being able to ride his bike all the time & my wife want to live close to the ocean which was a factor in this move. Me ~ I could care less as long as everyone is happy & I don't have to shovel 900 lbs of snow any more .... :D

[marvelguy]

Be prepared for the hum......ahh...never mind..you'll see.

[razorz000]

Be prepared for the hum......ahh...never mind..you'll see.

The Heat ..... :shock:

I know my sister has told me to come down in the fall because then I can get use to the weather.:cool:

[marvelguy]

The heat is one thing.....humidity, on the other hand...

[razorz000]

The heat is one thing.....humidity, on the other hand...

Well I'll make sure we have an industrial size air-conditioner put in ... :p

[kenmacny]

Houston was one of the cities we considered in our last move. Had lots of things going for it. One negative was the ozone pollution.

http://www.infoplease.com/science/environment/americas-polluted-metropolitan-areas-2008.html

Wasn't a total deal breaker but was a factor. FWIW. Good luck.

[razorz000]

Houston was one of the cities we considered in our last move. Had lots of things going for it. One negative was the ozone pollution.

http://www.infoplease.com/science/environment/americas-polluted-metropolitan-areas-2008.html

Wasn't a total deal breaker but was a factor. FWIW. Good luck.

There is alot going on in the city and the sub's which is why choosing it was on the top of the list. The only down fall is TENT CITY going on.