John Carter : The movie

[marvelguy]

It's finally happened! The Warlord of Mars will get a movie made.

http://www.johncartermovie.com/movienews.shtml

[toz1960]

A couple of things I noted.John Carter did fight in the Civil War but he wasn't "damaged".If anything he was more like the Eternal Hero that Moorcock later envisioned.

The second thing is that Barsoomian women were mostly naked most of the time.Hmmmm.

Anyway#woohoo#

[marvelguy]

Naked women could look really good but.....it's made by Disney. #banghead#

[malaprop]

They didn't have four boobies did they?

[toz1960]

They didn't have four boobies did they?

Not the women.The Thark females may have but not in any of the illustrated versions I've seen.I don't think ERB ever mentioned that in the novels.In addition to the four arms Tharks had,they also were green and had HUGE lower fangs,even the females.Major turn-off

[malaprop]

Well I guess fourwarned is fourarmed.

[Scarecrow1983]

Naked women could look really good but.....it's made by Disney. #banghead#

You've got to be kidding!! Disney is making this film? I guess this one will go straight to DVD. I liked the Old classic Disney stuff, but for this film it should be at least a PG-13 rating or even an R rating for the violence alone.

[fulltimer56]

I will believe it when they start the filming!! There has been rumors, on top of rumors for years about a John Carter movie!! #professor#

I'll wait and see!!

Linda

[marvelguy]

You've got to be kidding!! Disney is making this film? I guess this one will go straight to DVD. I liked the Old classic Disney stuff, but for this film it should be at least a PG-13 rating or even an R rating for the violence alone.

Yeah, it's a Pixar/Disney effort. The guy that plays Gambit in the Wolverine movie has secured the lead role. I don't know if it's CGI or live action.

[toz1960]

Found this on wikipedia about the movie.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Carter_of_Mars_(film)

I'm all excited#woohoo#.

[malaprop]

Being told by Wiki that the page does not exist gets you all excited?

[toz1960]

Seriously,it was there.I swear it.But when I just went back it was gone.

[malaprop]

Of course.

[toz1960]

Of course.
Bah!That wasn't hard at all.

John Carter of Mars is a planned film about John Carter (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/John_Carter_(character)), the lead character in much of Edgar Rice Burroughs (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Edgar_Rice_Burroughs)'s 11-volume Barsoom (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Barsoom) series. It will be directed by Andrew Stanton (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Andrew_Stanton) and stars Taylor Kitsch (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Taylor_Kitsch) as Carter. Contrary to previous misinformed publications, this movie is not being produced by Pixar. It is a separate Walt Disney production.
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1 Premise (http://www.comicscorral.com/forums/#Premise)
2 Cast (http://www.comicscorral.com/forums/#Cast)
3 Development (http://www.comicscorral.com/forums/#Development)

3.1 MGM and Bob Clampett production (http://www.comicscorral.com/forums/#MGM_and_Bob_Clampett_production)
3.2 1980s Walt Disney production (http://www.comicscorral.com/forums/#1980s_Walt_Disney_production)
3.3 Paramount production (http://www.comicscorral.com/forums/#Paramount_production)
3.4 Return to Disney (http://www.comicscorral.com/forums/#Return_to_Disney)

4 Production (http://www.comicscorral.com/forums/#Production)
5 References (http://www.comicscorral.com/forums/#References)
6 External links (http://www.comicscorral.com/forums/#External_links)
[edit (http://www.comicscorral.com/w/index.php?title=John_Carter_of_Mars_(film)&action=edit&section=1)] Premise

The film is based on the first serial to feature John Carter (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/John_Carter_(character)), 1912's A Princess of Mars (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/A_Princess_of_Mars). Carter is an American Civil War (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/American_Civil_War) veteran who goes to sleep in a cave after being chased by Apache (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Apache) Indians and wakes up on Mars (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Mars), here called Barsoom (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Barsoom). Formerly an Earthlike (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Earth) world, it became less hospitable to life due to its advanced age: as the oceans evaporated, and the atmosphere thinned, the planet devolved into partial barbarism with the inhabitants hardened and warlike, fighting one another to survive. Barsoomians distribute scarce water supplies via a worldwide system of canals (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Martian_canals), controlled by quarreling city-states. The Martian atmosphere is maintained by a power plant. Carter rescues a humanoid Red Martian princess, Dejah Thoris (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Dejah_Thoris), from the belligerent four-armed Green Martians, whose respect he gains for his superior strength and fighting ability. He enlists the Green Martians' assistance in winning a civil war, and saves Mars from destruction when its atmosphere plant malfunctions.
[edit (http://www.comicscorral.com/w/index.php?title=John_Carter_of_Mars_(film)&action=edit&section=2)] Cast


Taylor Kitsch (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Taylor_Kitsch) as John Carter (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/John_Carter_(character)).
Lynn Collins (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Lynn_Collins) as Dejah Thoris (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Dejah_Thoris).[1] (http://www.comicscorral.com/forums/#cite_note-0)
Willem Dafoe (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Willem_Dafoe) as Tars Tarkas (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Tars_Tarkas), a Barsoomian warrior and ally of John Carter.[citation needed (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed)]
Thomas Haden Church (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Thomas_Haden_Church) as Hajus, a vicious Thark warrior[2] (http://www.comicscorral.com/forums/#cite_note-1)
Samantha Morton (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Samantha_Morton) as Sola, daughter of Tars Tarkas [3] (http://www.comicscorral.com/forums/#cite_note-2)
Dominic West (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Dominic_West) as Sab Than, prince of the Zodangans[citation needed (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed)]
Polly Walker (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Polly_Walker) as Sarkoja, a merciless, tyrannical Thark[citation needed (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed)]
James Purefoy (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/James_Purefoy) as Kantos Kan, Captain of the ship Xavarian[4] (http://www.comicscorral.com/forums/#cite_note-3)
Mark Strong (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Mark_Strong) as Matai Shang, ruler of the godlike Therns[5] (http://www.comicscorral.com/forums/#cite_note-4)
[edit (http://www.comicscorral.com/w/index.php?title=John_Carter_of_Mars_(film)&action=edit&section=3)] Development

[edit (http://www.comicscorral.com/w/index.php?title=John_Carter_of_Mars_(film)&action=edit&section=4)] MGM and Bob Clampett production

In 1931, Looney Tunes (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Looney_Tunes) director Bob Clampett (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Bob_Clampett) approached Edgar Rice Burroughs (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Edgar_Rice_Burroughs) to adapt A Princess of Mars (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/A_Princess_of_Mars) into a feature length film. Burroughs responded enthusiastically to the idea, recognizing live action would have limited where an adaptation could go visually, but advised Clampett to write an original adventure for Carter.[6] (http://www.comicscorral.com/forums/#cite_note-5) Working with Burroughs' son John Coleman in 1935, Clampett used rotoscope (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Rotoscope) and hand-drawn techniques to capture the action, tracing over the motions of an athlete who performed John Carter's powerful movements in the reduced Martian gravity. Clampett designed Tharks, the Green Martians of Barsoom (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Barsoom), which he attempted to give a believable appearance, and produced footage of them riding eight-legged thoats at a gallop, which showed all eight legs in coordinated motion. He also produced footage of a fleet of rocket ships emerging from a Martian volcano. MGM was to release the cartoons, and studio heads were enthusiastic about the series.[7] (http://www.comicscorral.com/forums/#cite_note-glut105-6-6)
Unfortunately, the footage received negative reactions from exhibitors across the US, especially in small towns, many of whom opined that the concept of an Earthman on Mars was too outlandish for Midwest American audiences. The series was not given the go-ahead, and Clampett was instead encouraged to produce an animated Tarzan (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Tarzan) series, an offer which he later declined. Clampett mused that there was irony in MGM's decision, as the Flash Gordon (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Flash_Gordon) series released in 1936 by Universal Studios (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Universal_Studios) was highly successful, and speculated that MGM thought that serials were only played to children during Saturday Matinees, and the John Carter tales would be seen by adults during the evening. The footage Clampett produced was for many years believed lost until Burroughs' grandson, Danton Burroughs, found some of the film tests in the Edgar Rice Burroughs Inc. archives in the early 1970s.[7] (http://www.comicscorral.com/forums/#cite_note-glut105-6-6) Had A Princess of Mars been released, it would have beaten Walt Disney (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Walt_Disney)'s Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Snow_White_and_the_Seven_Dwarfs_(1937_film)) to become the first American feature-length animated film by five years.[8] (http://www.comicscorral.com/forums/#cite_note-hughes-7)
[edit (http://www.comicscorral.com/w/index.php?title=John_Carter_of_Mars_(film)&action=edit&section=5)] 1980s Walt Disney production

During the late 1950s, Ray Harryhausen (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Ray_Harryhausen) expressed interest in filming the novels, but it was not until the 1980s that producers Mario Kassar (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Mario_Kassar) and Andrew G. Vajna (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Andrew_G._Vajna) bought the rights for Walt Disney Pictures (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Walt_Disney_Pictures) with a view to creating a competitor to Star Wars (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Star_Wars) and Conan the Barbarian (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Conan_the_Barbarian_(film)). Ted Elliott (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Ted_Elliott) and Terry Rossio (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Terry_Rossio) were hired to write, while John McTiernan (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/John_McTiernan) and Tom Cruise (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Tom_Cruise) were approached to direct and star. The project collapsed because McTiernan noted visual effects were not advanced enough yet to recreate Burroughs' vision. The project remained at Disney, and Jeffrey Katzenberg (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Jeffrey_Katzenberg) was a heavy proponent of filming the novels, but the rights returned to Burroughs' estate.[8] (http://www.comicscorral.com/forums/#cite_note-hughes-7)
[edit (http://www.comicscorral.com/w/index.php?title=John_Carter_of_Mars_(film)&action=edit&section=6)] Paramount production

In 2001, The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/The_Lord_of_the_Rings:_The_Fellowship_of_the_Ring) had revitalized the fantasy film genre. Producer James Jacks (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/James_Jacks) was reading Harry Knowles (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Harry_Knowles)' autobiography, which lavished praise on the unfilmed John Carter of Mars series, and Jacks remembered he had read those novels as a child. He convinced Paramount Pictures (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Paramount_Pictures) to acquire the film rights, only to enter a bidding war with Columbia Pictures (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Columbia_Pictures). After Paramount and Jacks won the rights, Jacks contacted Knowles to advise on the project and hired Mark Protosevich (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Mark_Protosevich) to write the script. In 2003, Robert Rodriguez (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Robert_Rodriguez) signed on to direct after his friend Knowles gave him the script. Recognizing Knowles had always been an advisor to many filmmakers, Rodriguez asked him to officially be credited as a producer.[8] (http://www.comicscorral.com/forums/#cite_note-hughes-7)
Filming was set to begin in 2005, with Rodriguez planning to use the digital sets he was using on Sin City (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Sin_City_(film)).[8] (http://www.comicscorral.com/forums/#cite_note-hughes-7) Rodriguez planned to have Frank Frazetta (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Frank_Frazetta), a popular John Carter illustrator, serve as a designer on the film.[9] (http://www.comicscorral.com/forums/#cite_note-8) However, Rodriguez had created controversy over his decision to credit Frank Miller (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Frank_Miller_(comics)) as co-director on the film adaptation of his comics, and chose to leave the Director's Guild of America (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Director%27s_Guild_of_America). Unable to hire a non-DGA filmmaker, Paramount assigned Kerry Conran (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Kerry_Conran) to direct and Ehren Kruger (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Ehren_Kruger) to rewrite the script in October 2004. The Australian Outback (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Outback) was scouted as a location. Conran left the film for unknown reasons, and was replaced by Jon Favreau (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Jon_Favreau) in October 2005.[8] (http://www.comicscorral.com/forums/#cite_note-hughes-7)
Favreau and screenwriter Mark Fergus wanted to make their script faithful to the novels, keeping John Carter's American Civil War (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/American_Civil_War) past and making the Martian Tharks fifteen feet tall (whereas other scripts made them human sized). Favreau explained a modern soldier would not know how to fence or ride a horse like Carter. The first film would have adapted the first three novels, A Princess of Mars (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/A_Princess_of_Mars), The Gods of Mars (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/The_Gods_of_Mars) and The Warlord of Mars (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/The_Warlord_of_Mars). Unlike Rodriguez and Conran, Favreau preferred using practical effects for the film and cited Planet of the Apes (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Planet_of_the_Apes_(1968_film)) as his inspiration, wanting to use make-up as well as CGI to create the Martian Tharks. However, Favreau's official affiliation with the project was not strong, and in August 2006 Paramount chose not to renew the film rights, preferring to focus on Star Trek (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Star_Trek_(film)). Favreau and Fergus moved on to Iron Man (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Iron_Man_(film)).[8] (http://www.comicscorral.com/forums/#cite_note-hughes-7)
[edit (http://www.comicscorral.com/w/index.php?title=John_Carter_of_Mars_(film)&action=edit&section=7)] Return to Disney

In January 2007, Disney regained the rights, acquiring them this time for Andrew Stanton (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Andrew_Stanton) and writer Mark Andrews (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Mark_Andrews_(filmmaker)). By 2008 they completed the first draft for part one of a film trilogy. Having completed WALL-E (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/WALL-E), Stanton planned to have his next film out in 2012, the centenary of the series. Stanton and Wells visited Edgar Rice Burroughs, Inc. (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Edgar_Rice_Burroughs,_Inc.)'s archives in Tarzana, California (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Tarzana,_California), as part of their research.[8] (http://www.comicscorral.com/forums/#cite_note-hughes-7) Jim Morris, general manager (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/General_manager) of Pixar (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Pixar), said the film will have a unique look separate from Frank Frazetta's illustrations, which they found dated.[10] (http://www.comicscorral.com/forums/#cite_note-9) Ed Catmull (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Ed_Catmull) said Pixar will not do the special effects;[11] (http://www.comicscorral.com/forums/#cite_note-10) Stanton noted he was effectively being "loaned" to Walt Disney Pictures (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Walt_Disney_Pictures) because Pixar is an all-ages brand, whereas John Carter will be rated PG-13 (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/PG-13).[12] (http://www.comicscorral.com/forums/#cite_note-11) The first film will be based on just the first novel.[13] (http://www.comicscorral.com/forums/#cite_note-12) Stanton noted that although he had less time on pre-production than any of his animated projects, since he had read the novels as a child this made it easier because he had visualized scenes a long time ago. He does not intend to shoot in Disney Digital 3-D (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Disney_Digital_3-D), although he fears the studio will force him to.[14] (http://www.comicscorral.com/forums/#cite_note-13) In April 2009, Pulitzer Prize-winning author Michael Chabon (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Michael_Chabon) confirmed he had been hired to do revisions to the script.[15] (http://www.comicscorral.com/forums/#cite_note-14) Filming will take place from November 2009 to July 2010 in Utah (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Utah). Locations include Lake Powell (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Lake_Powell) and the counties of Grand (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Grand_County,_Utah), Wayne (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Wayne_County,_Utah) and Kane (http://www.comicscorral.com/wiki/Kane_County,_Utah).[16] (http://www.comicscorral.com/forums/#cite_note-15)
[edit (http://www.comicscorral.com/w/index.php?title=John_Carter_of_Mars_(film)&action=edit&section=8)] Production

Church's character belongs to the savage race of Green martians, so he'll be largely unrecognisable, being 10-12' tall, green, four-armed and with eyes on the sides of his head. Purefoy's character is one of the Red martians, so basically humanoid, while Strong's character is one of the white-skinned Thern, who are bald but wear wigs.[17] (http://www.comicscorral.com/forums/#cite_note-16)

[malaprop]

"while Strong's character is one of the white-skinned Thern, who are bald but wear wigs.[17]"

I know a few guys like that. Now I'll admit, this is exciting. i have't been to a movie since Gran Torino, but I'd I'd go see this one.

[pasnat54]

There are some actors I like in the cast; Mark Strong, Polly Walker (although her beauty will be hidden behind her Tharkness), Willem Dafoe.

The process of making the movie seems chaotic, but actually it's not that out of line with how a lot of movies get made.

I'm a little leery of "a unique look separate from Frank Frazetta's."

Just how far they stray from the preconceived images people have of the Barsoomian novels will probably be a topic of debate here.

[toz1960]

http://johncartermovie.com/index.shtml

To be released in 2012.Can't wait!!!

[illuminated]

http://johncartermovie.com/index.shtml

To be released in 2012.Can't wait!!!

I sure hope they don't push the date back. I'd like to see it before the end of the world.

[fulltimer56]

Like I said earlier... I'll believe it when I see it being filmed..... They have been talking about this movie for YEARS... :-(

Linda

[custodes]

http://io9.com/5819836/everything-you-need-to-know-about-disneys-john-carter-movie

Good info and pics...

[Hepcat]

Well I guess fourwarned is fourarmed.

:D

Agreed, but four titties would still be nice.

#love#

[marvelguy]

Here it is, the trailer. Looking good!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Rf55GTEZ_E&feature=player_embedded

[jordanscott]

Yes it is.

[fulltimer56]

And in 3D too.... OK, now I'm a happy camper....