Where do I find and what are the +'s of micro filter paper?

[SILLYSHIP--pirate eye--]

I busted a book free, a high issue Thor in 9.4 I got for like $10 to see what they do and where the "microfilter paper" is, so now that I've seen one,

#1. what does it actually do?

#2. Where is the cheapest place to buy one?

[mordo]

You can buy microchamber paper at comicsupply.com.

http://www.comicsupply.com/index.php?cPath=40

It looks like it'll average out to 11c to 12c per sheet after shipping.

Does anyone know if it is supposed to prevent page brittleness over time or is that a different issue altogether?

[The Charlton Guy]

:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: GREAT GOOGILY MOOGILY! :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

"This is a very easy product to use. It is simliar in consistency to Play-Doh. All you do is get a small ball, work it into a circle and rub it in one direction. It gently lifts dirt, fingerprints and other smudges off your comic or book. Each order is for 1 tub and contains 11 ounces. "

"It is important to note that this product will leave no residue behind. You can also use this on the interior pages of a comic book."

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/the-charlton-guy/absorene.jpg

I think I need to go throw up now...

[SatansProdigy]

Where did you find that CG? Comicsupply.com?

[The Charlton Guy]

Where did you find that CG? Comicsupply.com?

Yup. $10.39 a tub...buy 'em while they last!

[The Charlton Guy]

Oooops! :oops:

This damn plastic tub of gunk is going to get me in trouble over on the CGC board.

http://boards.collectors-society.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=1254481&an=0&page=0#Post1254481

The guy from Comicsupply.com doesn't seem to be amused.

That's what I get for posting in the belly of the Beast...

[marvelguy]

But wait, if it was made since 1891, then what the heck they used it for? Facial hair? Comicsupply.com has no business whatsoever regarding customer rights, if it is a scandal, then it is a scandal. For all I know, it could be Play-Doh switched.

[The Charlton Guy]

But wait, if it was made since 1891, then what the heck they used it for? Facial hair? Comicsupply.com has no business whatsoever regarding customer rights, if it is a scandal, then it is a scandal. For all I know, it could be Play-Doh switched.

We'll all find out soon.

I'm going to order a tub on Friday!

I smell another C.G. auction extravaganza coming up... :lol:

(Co. Twitchylips Productions, 2006)

[The Charlton Guy]

Check this out:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/the-charlton-guy/iabsorene2.jpg

This is from the ABSORENE website (here):

http://www.absorene.com/

You tell me, is it the same stuff, different tub? LOL!

Tub #1: "Absorene Wallpaper Cleaner effectively cleans ceiling tile, smoke film, paintings, window shades, blinds, lamp shades, tapestries, felt hats, painted surfaces, and fire restoration cleanup."

Tub #2: "Absorene Paper and Book Cleaner is used by museum curators, archival restoration experts, and libraries to clean old manuscripts, prints, oil paintings, books, papers, and tapestries. "

Hey, at least one tub has blue lettering and one tub has red lettering.

[The Charlton Guy]

Where is my old, greasy felt hat anyway...

[Evil Parsnip]

veddy interesting... is that restoration? cleaning?

[The Charlton Guy]

veddy interesting... is that restoration? cleaning?

Overstreet has come out and stated that dry and wet chemical or non-chemical cleaning is considered restoration ("anything done to a comic in an attempt to return it to an earlier and improved state") but CGC does NOT consider dry chemical cleaning to be resoration and does not note it on their labels.

Yet another CGC travesty.

Who knows how many books get this and other chemical treatments...

I don't like to think about it.

(But I love to talk about it...)

[fulltimer56]

Is it really worth using " Microchamber Archival Paper" in your books? Does it work even in books that are put in bags that ain't mylar?

Linda

[SatansProdigy]

Dunno Linda! But I do know that CGC and PGX use them and neither the slab nor the inner piece is mylar......

[marvelguy]

Another question, if you roll it on paper, cover, and the works. Will it pick up "acids" from paper, ink? If so, will it age the book faster? Less acid, faster decay? Even though, the company don't claim this, right? Maybe further study is needed on books like ASM #1, or FF #1? I shudder at the thought of it.

[marvelguy]

What I meant to say acid in the form of gases.

[The Charlton Guy]

Another question, if you roll it on paper, cover, and the works. Will it pick up "acids" from paper, ink?

One can only hope...and go "OHMMMMM"...

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/the-charlton-guy/leary.jpg

Seriously, the cheap pulp paper used for GA and early SA books is highly acidic and thus prone to tanning and brittleness unless stored in optimal climate and moisture controlled environment. Of course, these conditions were and are seldom met for comic books. The de-acidification sheets are pretty much just a finger in the dyke as far as holding off long term decomposition.

The good news is that often, usually by a fluke of locale and climate and storage conditions, some pulp based paper will be remarably well preserved, even after as much as 100 years. I have quite a few turn of the century (19th to 20th century that is) and earlier periodicals, newspapers and pulp-based publications and I have seen some that have exceptionally supple and un-tanned pages, but this is rare. News-pulp and news-print will break down and deteriorate pretty darn quickly and significantly in the greater time-scheme of things, so any steps that can be taken to hold this off (even minimally) are worth taking. I would use the sheets. One inside the front cover, one inside the rear cover, one in the middle of the book.

There is also the option of a chemical (liquid) de-acidification process, but I have only seen in done on paper and/or linen based book sheets, not on newsprint/pulp (though I am pretty sure it can be done). Obviously, that is something that needs to be done by a restoration expert.

[jaeldubyoo]

Oooops! :oops:

This damn plastic tub of gunk is going to get me in trouble over on the CGC board.

http://boards.collectors-society.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=1254481&an=0&page=0#Post1254481

The guy from Comicsupply.com doesn't seem to be amused.

That's what I get for posting in the belly of the Beast...

I love the "scientific method" he used for determining whether or not it causes any harmful effects to comics. It makes me feel so assured. :roll:

"I left a ball (size of a quarter) on a white covered book for about a week and when I took it off there was no marking. The paper did bubble a bit because the ball of it was wet and caused it to crinkle, however you wouldn't leave it on in the first place. I did it to show myself that it wouldn't stain.

The only thing this product removes are contaminates such as Dirt, smoke and the likes. It certainly isn't a cure all, but to say it will damage the ink and paper is highly ignorant as I assume you have no clue as to how to even use it."

Coupla questions. He still didn't address the long term effects. Did he have any books he used it on for a longer period of time, say five years? And what about the gloss? It seems most "dry cleaning" methods would take off gloss.

[marvelguy]

Jael said it for me.

[The Charlton Guy]

Yeah, I rolled over the first time, but the more I thought about it, I couldn't keep my big trap shut:

http://boards.collectors-society.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=gradeandresto&Number=1254481&page=0&fpart=4

[The Charlton Guy]

LOL!

Now they think I'm "comic-keys" over there!

TOOOOO funny!

Poetic justice or something? I dunno...

[jaydeebee]

So you paid $10.39 for a vat of SILLY PUDDY? Bwa-HAHA!