CGC vs "Amateur Graders" Guess the Grade! - Part 5

[habib]

Congrats again to Camper for being the Grading King of the last game!

Great participation on the last round of Game 4. Let's have that type of paticipation in all 10 rounds here in Game 5!

As a refresher, here are the grading standards and rules for this game.....

Grading Standards:

Poor - 0.5
Fair - 1.0
Fair/Good - 1.5
Good Minus - 1.8
Good - 2.0
Good + - 2.5
Good/Very Good - 3.0
VG Minus - 3.5
VG - 4.0
VG + - 4.5
VG/Fine - 5.0
Fine Minus - 5.5
Fine - 6.0
Fine + - 6.5
Fine/VF - 7.0
VF Minus - 7.5
VF - 8.0
VF + - 8.5
VF/Near Mint - 9.0
Near Mint Minus - 9.2
Near Mint - 9.4
Near Mint + - 9.6
Near Mint/Mint - 9.8
Mint - 9.9
Gem Mint - 10.0

RULES:

Guess what grade you think CGC gave the comic (which may not necessarily be the grade you would give it)

Only one guess per round.

The first poster with the CGC grade (or closest if no matches) gets (10) CorralCash. Other subsequent correct guesses will get (5) CorralCash each.

AND

"Guess the Grade" Game - Part 5 will have 10 rounds.

The Corralite who on average for all 10 rounds is closest to the CGC grade will win a bonus of 25 CorralCash & Free Comics!! You have to play all 10 rounds to be eligible for the free comics & bonus CorralCash. A round will usually be 24 to 48 hours long so get those guesses in early (rounds may be longer if need be).

This games prizes (free comics!) will be determined soon.

Let's get round #1 started with my next post!

[habib]

Round #1

Guess the CGC grade for:

Action Comics #15

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b125/kammion/Action15.jpg

Back Cover

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b125/kammion/Action15b.jpg

Good Luck to all!!

Now start getting thoses Guesses in!!!

[camper49]

Spine roll, ratty back cover, etc.
Let's go with a 4.5!!!

[Greg]

Im going to go with a 4.0, mainly because of the back cover.

[SatansProdigy]

3.5

[jaeldubyoo]

4.5

Seems CGC has a Golden Age curve.

[marvelguy]

5.0

[mordo]

5.5

[fulltimer56]

I don't know if we can ask questions but I'm going to:

Is the red color on the back cover from the scanner or is that part of the book? I'm asking this because it's showing up on the front too.

Thanks,
Linda

[habib]

Linda,

I think that is just scanner glare.

And yes you may ask as many questions as you like!!

[Evil Parsnip]

that's a legit 3.5-4.0 but I'll drop it to a 3.0 since no one else guessed that number and I hate being scond.

[chaosus]

4.5

[fulltimer56]

5.5

[chaosus]

3.5

[The Charlton Guy]

I'm with Doc. Too many compound flaws stacking up.

I'll go 3.0 too.

But wait a minute, then I took a refresher on the rules: "Guess what grade you think CGC gave the comic"

In that case, CGC called it a 4.5

[The Charlton Guy]

4.5

Seems CGC has a Golden Age curve.

A seriously hyperbolic Golden Age curve...

[fulltimer56]

Are we going to find out or are we waiting to see if anyone else makes a guess?

Linda

[disneyteddies]

Seems to fit the criteria for a VG/FN 5.0..depends on how the inside is but I'll say 5.0

[habib]

Time to close down Round #1.

Results:

Camper - 4.5
Greg - 4.0
SP - 3.5
Jael - 4.5
Marvelguy - 5.0
Mordo - 5.5
Evil Parsnip - 3.0
Chaos - 4.5/3.5 (hey only one guess bub! :o ) I'll take your 1st guess.
Fulltimer - 5.5
CG - 4.5
Disneyteddies - 5.0



And the CGC grade was.......


CGC - 4.0

10 CorralCash to be awarded to Greg for hitting the CGC grade!

A much better start than last game Greg!



Current standings:

1st Greg (0.0)
2nd Camper (.5)
2nd SP (.5)
2nd Jael (.5)
2nd Chaos (.5)
2nd CG (.5)
7th Marvelguy (1.0)
7th Evil Parsnip (1.0)
7th Disneyteddies (1.0)
7th Mordo (1.0)
11th Fulltimer (1.5)

Number in () is the average of how far off of the grade you are. (low numbers here are good!)

Names in red have played all rounds so far!

Next round coming up later..........

[Greg]

Awesome, I should print a screen shot and hang it on my fridge!

[habib]

Round #2

Lots of great guesses 1st round! Let's continue this game with a bunch more.......

Next comic is:

Star Wars #1

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b125/kammion/sw1.jpg

Back Cover

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b125/kammion/sw1b.jpg

[SatansProdigy]

9.4

[camper49]

Staples are in the wrong spot, ding/scrape in lower left corner, other edge wear as seen on back cover.

I'd say 8.5.

But what does the CGC Monkey say?

[habib]

Hey Camp.....I thought YOU were the CGC monkey!! :lol:

[habib]

Wait....sorry Camp....you lost that title you earned from game 4.

Greg is the current CGC grading monkey!! (at least until he guesses this round :twisted: )

[Greg]

Given the newer age and that it isn't a very uncommon book, I am going to go with 9.0, I would probably go just a tad higher if it weren't for that.

[Greg]

Oh great, I just lost my title! :x

[habib]

Oh great, I just lost my title! :x

You will have to wait a couple days to find out! :twisted:

[marvelguy]

9.2

[rowand]

Yes to rounded lower spine corner and the staples are stiched slightly toward the front cover. Page line up is less off but not perfect.

I'm concerned about the color bleed through from inside the covers (it may be a function of the scanner) so 8.0 if the covers are somehow becoming transparent in some fashion.

I remember buying 40 or so of these at work one day in 82 or so to use as Christmas presents.

[fulltimer56]

9.8

[fulltimer56]

Only because all the good grades have been used! 8)

[camper49]

Greg and I are/were CGC Monkeys.
Hey it's a job......it's better than being a Fudge-Packer!

Imagine telling people what you do for a living?
"So, what do you do?"
Oh, I'm a Fudge-Packer."

[SatansProdigy]

Greg and I are/were CGC Monkeys.
Hey it's a job......it's better than being a Fudge-Packer!

Imagine telling people what you do for a living?
"So, what do you do?"
Oh, I'm a Fudge-Packer."

:shock:

[The Charlton Guy]

This copy seems to have some issues. That sure looks like a small edge/spine tear to me (near the misplaced bottom staple) as well as some slight staple pull and associated surface color breaks at the staple tines.

It does look like some moderate to heavy transparancy and a touch of surface soiling too.

3 of the 4 corners look a touch blunted. Slight bindery nip at the heel of the spine.

Not too shabby, but not NM (barely VF- in my book). I'd call it a 7.0 based on what I see, but:

CGC called it an 8.0

[marvelguy]

Greg and I are/were CGC Monkeys.
Hey it's a job......it's better than being a Fudge-Packer!

Imagine telling people what you do for a living?
"So, what do you do?"
Oh, I'm a Fudge-Packer."



Ewwww.........next they think you're joking, they then say "What kind of dessert you pack?"

[jaeldubyoo]

9.0

That's being generous, but then again it's CGC graded.

[rowand]

CGC monkeys don't have their own parades and days.

[chaosus]

CGC went 9.0

OH BTW, that's the 35 Cent Variant, so thats gonna get the book a two grade bump. LOL

[Evil Parsnip]

8.0 looks like it's stained to me.. but that could just be the monitor here in the internet cafe in Seoul....

[habib]

If anyone else is going to "guess a grade" better do it now.....'cause tomorrow morning I am closing this round and starting a new one!

[malaprop]

9.4. Did I get in under the wire?

[mordo]

Whew! I made it!

9.0 please.

[habib]

Time to close down Round #2.

Results:

Camper - 8.5
Greg - 9.0
SP - 9.4
Jael - 9.0
Marvelguy - 9.2
Mordo - 9.0
Evil Parsnip - 8.0
Chaos - 9.0.
Fulltimer - 9.8
CG - 8.0
Rowand - 8.0
Malaprop - 9.4



And the CGC grade was.......


CGC - 8.0

10 CorralCash to be awarded to Rowand for hitting the CGC grade 1st! 5 CorralCash go to Evil Parsip and CG for also guessing the CGC grade.


Current standings:

1st Rowand (0.0)
2nd CG (.25)
3rd Greg (.5)
3rd Camper (.5)
3rd Evil Parsnip (.5)
6th Jael (.75)
6th Chaos (.75)
8th SP (.95)
9th Disneyteddies (1.0)
10th Marvelguy (1.1)
11th Mordo (1.25)
12th Malaprop (1.4)
13th Fulltimer (1.65)

Number in () is the average of how far off of the grade you are. (low numbers here are good!)

Names in red have played all rounds so far!

Next round coming up later..........

[habib]

Round #3

Here it is:

Amazing Spider-Man #34

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b125/kammion/sp34.jpg

Back Cover

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b125/kammion/sp34b.jpg

Now Guess that CGC grade!

[Evil Parsnip]

Looks like a 9.4 but the scan is really dark... can you post a better scan?

[SatansProdigy]

9.0

[habib]

Hey EP! I ain't a miracle worker here!! That's as good as it gets!!!! :shock:

Seriously, I work hard at stealing.....I mean.....borrowing these scans :D

[camper49]

Well, I'll go in between you guys....a 9.2
That's a sweet-looking book!

[chaosus]

9.4

[Greg]

I am going to go 9.2 as well. It's amazing how well some of these books hold up after a half a century or so.

[jaeldubyoo]

9.2

[marvelguy]

9.4,
Awesome looking book. :shock:

[The Charlton Guy]

It is a really sweet looking book. That's a gorgeous spine. Slightly rear-cover-biased staples (just the way I like 'em, keeps the spine nice and flat, but believe it or not, is a deduction). Gorgeous back cover.

I see some blunted/rounded open corners and a few edge dings though, so I'll go with an 8.5.. A strangely uneven right hand edge cut too...this is'nt a comic-keys book, is it ? JUUUUUSSSST kidding!

Though I can see why you guys (and CGC) might grade it higher.

This is beautiful copy of a very difficult cover.

[fulltimer56]

I'm going with 9.0 but I don't seem to be doing very good with my guesses do I? :oops:

Linda

[mordo]

I'll go with 9.0 too.

[jaeldubyoo]

A strangely uneven right hand edge cut too...this is'nt a comic-keys book, is it ? JUUUUUSSSST kidding!


You're not the only one to notice the funky right side. I saw the cut as odd too. Especially the way the angle is on that relative to the pages. But if was trimmed, CGC would catch it, right?:?: :?: :?: :!: :!: :!:

I guess it doesn't matter as long as CGC "certifies" it as unrestored and gives it a universal blue label.

[rowand]

OK, I guess 8.7 whether that is a grade or not. The top staple is moved slightly toward the back cover and the front/back don't line up well as seen in the back cover.

CGC grade 8.7

[habib]

I think most have their guesses in BUT if anyone else is going to get them in.......I will probably close down this round tomorrow!

[malaprop]

Oh I dunno. 9.2. I seem to be getting worse at this.

[habib]

Time to close down Round #3.

Results:

Camper - 9.2
Greg - 9.2
SP - 9.0
Jael - 9.2
Marvelguy - 9.4
Mordo - 9.0
Evil Parsnip - 9.4
Chaos - 9.4
Fulltimer - 9.0
CG - 8.5
Rowand - 8.7
Malaprop - 9.2



And the CGC grade was for the Amazing Spider-Man #34 was.......


CGC - 9.2

10 CorralCash to be awarded to Camper for hitting the CGC grade 1st! 5 CorralCash go to Greg, Jael and Malaprop for also guessing the CGC grade.


Current standings:

1st Rowand (.25)
2nd Greg (.33)
2nd Camper (.33)
4th CG (.4)
4th Evil Parsnip (.4)
6th Jael (.5)
7th Chaos (.56)
8th Malaprop (.7)
9th Marvelguy (.8 )
10th Mordo (.9)
11th SP (.95)
12th Disneyteddies (1.0)
13th Fulltimer (1.16)

Number in () is the average of how far off of the grade you are. (low numbers here are good!)

Names in red have played all rounds so far!

Next round coming up later..........

[fulltimer56]

Oh my goodness!! I'm number 13!! Lord, I hope that's a good number!! :D

[SatansProdigy]

Always been lucky for me Linda! :wink:

[habib]

Here is Round #4 for you comic graders!

This round we have an Avengers #95.

Front Cover

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b125/kammion/aveng95.jpg

Back Cover

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b125/kammion/aveng95b.jpg

Guess that Grade!

[jaeldubyoo]

Overall, the comic's not bad. But that staple pull bothers me. Personally, I'd say about 5.0. Since it's CGC grading, I'll go with a 5.5.

[marvelguy]

6.0

[SatansProdigy]

7.0

[mordo]

7.0

[The Charlton Guy]

Blown staple...the kiss of death.

It's a 4.0

[Greg]

I will go with a 6.5 on this one. In addition to the staple the bottom cover looks a little rough.

[Evil Parsnip]

6.0 though I'm tempted by 5.5

[fulltimer56]

I think I would go with a 5.5 myself!

Linda http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v35/fulltimer56/smiley/ZZZshehulk2.gif

[malaprop]

You guys are tough. 6.5.

[camper49]

I'm gonna go with the 6.0.

OGG states that any book can be rated higher than the proverbial low grade IF only one glaring defect exists (such as a blown staple).
Since this book doesn't have any other real defects other than some spine stress and other minor wear, I'd go with the FINE 6.0

[chaosus]

Blown staple, Spine stress, overall cover wear front and back.

3.5 tops

It's a $2.00 book

[The Charlton Guy]

Blown staple, Spine stress, overall cover wear front and back.

3.5 tops

It's a $2.00 book

A stricter grader than moi???

I'm with you, it's a flea market/bargain bin book.

That slab should bring it up in value though...maybe $3.00 ?

[rowand]

Neal Adams Avenger's art with a decent story.

It's a 4.5 and I'll make it my life's work to empty all $2.00 bins that they are in. They make great Xmas gifts to new comic readers.

"What's ALL these white spaces doing in between the panels???"

[jaeldubyoo]

I, too, would be more than happy to shell out $2.00 for an Avengers #95 in that condition even though I have several nicer copies of that book. The great Neal Adams' art and Roy Thomas' classic Kree-Skrull War story make it worthwhile. Like rowand says, it would make a nice gift especially to a newbie.

[rowand]

Oh, wait! It's slabbed! Never mind!

[The Charlton Guy]

Now you guys are going to make me go out and find a copy...I never read it. Is it a two-parter or just the single issue?

[marvelguy]

It's a five parter. I thought it was two until I did some research on it. Here's link if you dare to know it beforehand.

WARNING SPOILERS .....at least it's 30 years old... :lol:

[marvelguy]

It's a five parter. I thought it was two until I did some research on it. Here's link if you dare to know it beforehand.

WARNING SPOILERS .....at least it's 30 years old... :lol:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kree-Skrull_War

[rowand]

Actually it was more like a 9 parter staring in Avengers 89!

Grab a copy of the Graphic novel (should there be one) Neal Adams art on a Roy Thomas masterpiece. One of the perfect comic storylines!

This was the place where Rick Jones first manifestated his godlike powers.

An intricate, well scripted story arc that starts with the re-animation of the sentry, I believe it was, and leads us through galaxy spanning warfare down to the personal story that kept the whole misugash running!
Rick Jones saves the day, and the Avengers, and the whole universe, singlehandedly. Show and tell must have been fun once school started.

It was immediately topped by Avengers 98-100 that blew the roof offa the joint when every Avenger ever (except Red Wolf) journeyed to Mount Olympus and saved the entire Greek Pantheon. The opening panels to 100 were breathtaking as the Avengers are mostly introduced and the monologue reads. "And one, thankfully, only one who brushes the trees aside!" That was the Hulk's introduction!

Read 'em and weep, fanboys! They don't write 'em like that anymore!

[rowand]

EBay has a copy of the two Graphic Novel set that covers this story arc with a starting bid of $1.99 Item Number 6636457724. It is a great read!

I think those are new Starlin art covers!

[The Charlton Guy]

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/the-charlton-guy/suspense.jpg

What's the grade? Huh? Huh?

[habib]

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/the-charlton-guy/suspense.jpg

What's the grade? Huh? Huh?

Hey.....it's my birthday in a couple hours....I don't have time for this game stuff :P !

[fulltimer56]

Hi habib,

How old are you going to be in a few hours?

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!

Linda

[habib]

Hi habib,

How old are you going to be in a few hours?

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!

Linda

Habib is turning 44 in a couple hours Linda!

And Thanks for the Happy Birthday wishes!

[The Charlton Guy]

Awesome! My very best C.G. Birthday wishes to you my friend!

Have a blast and I hope you pile up some nice birthday goodies!

Have fun!

[fulltimer56]

Darn, am I older than everyone here? Lord, to be 44 again!! :(

Linda

[habib]

Awesome! My very best C.G. Birthday wishes to you my friend!

Have a blast and I hope you pile up some nice birthday goodies!

Have fun!

Thanks CG!

And just for you.....I will close out this round before bed tonight (but I probably won't start a new round until monday)

[The Charlton Guy]

Darn, am I older than everyone here? Lord, to be 44 again!! :(

Linda

Don't fret too much Linda, I'm right up there with ya...

We're not over the hill, we ARE the hill! (or something like that...).

[habib]

Time to close down Round #4.

Results:

Camper - 6.0
Greg - 6.5
SP - 7.0
Jael - 5.5
Marvelguy - 6.0
Mordo - 7.0
Evil Parsnip - 6.0
Chaos - 3.5
Fulltimer - 5.5
CG - 4.0
Rowand - 4.5
Malaprop - 6.5

And the CGC grade was for the Avengers #95 was.......

CGC - 5.5

10 CorralCash to be awarded to Jael for hitting the CGC grade 1st! 5 CorralCash go to Linda for also guessing the CGC grade.

Current standings:

1st Camper (.375)
1st Jael (.375)
3rd Evil Parsnip (.425)
4th Rowand (.5)
4th Greg (.5)
6th CG (.675)
7th Marvelguy (.725)
8th Malaprop (.8 )
9th Fulltimer (.875)
10th SP (.9)
11th Chaos (.925)
12th Disneyteddies (1.0)
13th Mordo (1.05)

Number in () is the average of how far off of the grade you are. (low numbers here are good!)

Names in red have played all rounds so far!

Next round coming up later (probably Monday)..........

Great Job this game so far to all players! After next round we will be half way through this game!

[The Charlton Guy]

Holy smokes...congratulations you guys.

But if I ever sold a SA book like this on ebay, with a blown staple and wear like this and called it a Fine-/5.5 as the stated grade, I would expect not only negative feedback, but New Jersey hit squads showing up on my doorstep...yeesh.

A blown staple (thus a semi-detached cover and interior pages) is a MAJOR defect in my book.

Sour grapes time over...congratulations Jaeldubyoo and Linda!

[fulltimer56]

Thanks, at least I ain't in last place anymore!!! :)

[habib]

Holy smokes...congratulations you guys.

But if I ever sold a SA book like this on ebay, with a blown staple and wear like this and called it a Fine-/5.5 as the stated grade, I would expect not only negative feedback, but New Jersey hit squads showing up on my doorstep...yeesh.

A blown staple (thus a semi-detached cover and interior pages) is a MAJOR defect in my book.

Sour grapes time over...congratulations Jaeldubyoo and Linda!

I am with you on this one CG.

Since I am old school I would have described this one as a VG or possibly a VG+ if it had enough eye appeal if I sold it.

But it is my job (as game master) to find some tricky CGC graded books to mess up everyones scores :twisted: .

[habib]

Round #5

This time around I present to you one of the Classics!!

Amazing Spider-Man #1!

Front Cover:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b125/kammion/spidey1.jpg

Back Cover:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b125/kammion/spidey1b.jpg

Everyone has been doing fantastic so far with most everyone having participated in all rounds.

Keep it going strong and guess that CGC grade!

[fulltimer56]

I'm going with a 4.0 and I think I'm being easy on it.

With the all over wear and that tape with the name on the back that's the grade I'm giving it. Now of course it be CGC it's most likely a 6.5

Linda

[Greg]

For this one I am going to go with a 3.0.

It seems like a perfect copy to not get slabbed and to keep out to read.

[fulltimer56]

I was thinking the some thing, Greg!! :)

[SatansProdigy]

I'll go with 3.5

[jaeldubyoo]

I was wavering between 3.0 and 3.5. I'll go with 3.0. I really don't like that tape.

[rowand]

4.5 and a well earned bribe would be required! I would do no higher than 2.5 if'n I was selling it!

[marvelguy]

I'm gonna say a 3.0 because of the tape. I've always heard that in order to remove the tape, bumper stickers, stickers, etc.. you apply heat to the surface of the item in question, it will remove it easily but in this case that's very dangerous, the tape might be old to get it off. If you tried this, you might rip it off. But anyways a great book.

[The Charlton Guy]

I'll stick to my guns and call it like I see it:

Good+ (2.5).

And that's really pushing it...

[The Charlton Guy]

I will qualify that by saying that the front cover is in pretty good shape overall. It's just that staple rust that kills it. This is also a shame (no have it slabbed I mean) because further rust migration to the interior pages will continue inside the slab.

This would be a great restoration candidate. If it was disassembled, cleaned, staples replaced, tape removed, etc. it would make for a very respectable copy.

As it is, still a solid filler copy I wouldn't mind having.

(But I still call it a 2.5 on a generous grading day, more like a 2.0).

[malaprop]

How about 3.5. Just think of all the things that could have been wrong with it.

[habib]

Let's get all those guesses in for this Spidey #1!

Still got a handfull of regular game players to get those grades in and time for any new graders to jump in!!!

[camper49]

All the grades are taken!

I'll go with a 3.0....halfway between G and VG.

[chaosus]

I'm going with a 3.0

It's the staple rust and tape that really hurts the eye appeal of the book. Other than that, that's a really nice solid copy.

Gary

[mordo]

3.5

[rowand]

Wait! We are trying to guess what the CGC grading monkeys (the flingettes) came up with aren't we? Not what it really is! Right?

[fulltimer56]

Right, rowand!!

Of course all of us know that CGC can't grade themselves out of a wet paperbag!!! :twisted:

[habib]

Get those last guesses in......I am closing this round out tomorrow!

[rowand]

Of course all of us know that CGC can't grade themselves out of a wet paperbag!!!

Notes to self: cancel the care package of wet paper bags going to CGC! The wet T-Shirts for Jennifer Tilly are still a GO!

[The Charlton Guy]

So...what do you think the grade is Henry?

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/the-charlton-guy/untitled-1.jpg

Don't know Stacy...

...we'll have to check back...if...I...can...make it...accckkkk...

[habib]

Time to close down Round #5.

Results:

Camper - 3.0
Greg - 3.0
SP - 3.5
Jael - 3.0
Marvelguy - 3.0
Mordo - 3.5
Evil Parsnip -
Chaos - 3.0
Fulltimer - 4.0
CG - 2.5
HH -
Rowand - 4.5
Malaprop - 3.5

And the CGC grade was for the Amazing Spider-Man #1 was.......

CGC - 3.0

10 CorralCash to be awarded to Greg for hitting the CGC grade 1st! 5 CorralCash go to Camper, Jael, MG, & Chaos for also guessing the CGC grade.

Current standings:

1st Camper (.3)
1st Jael (.3)
3rd Greg (.4)
4th Evil Parsnip (.425)
5th Marvelguy (.58 )
5th Malaprop (.58 )
7th CG (.64)
8th Chaos (.74)
9th Rowand (.75)
10th SP (.82)
11th Mordo (.94)
12th Fulltimer (.96)
13th Disneyteddies (1.0)

Number in () is the average of how far off of the grade you are. (low numbers here are good!)

Names in red have played all rounds so far!

Next round coming up later..........

A Continued Great Job this game so far to all players! That was the best round yet!

[habib]

So...what do you think the grade is Henry?

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/the-charlton-guy/untitled-1.jpg

Don't know Stacy...

...we'll have to check back...if...I...can...make it...accckkkk...

LOL! :D :lol: :D

[fulltimer56]

Well I'm almost back in last place again and I am last for us folks who have graded each time!! :cry:

Hi habib when are you going to post the next comic?

Linda

[habib]

Well I'm almost back in last place again and I am last for us folks who have graded each time!! :cry:

Hi habib when are you going to post the next comic?

Linda

Hey Linda!

It's been a busy weekend so I haven't had much Corral time......but I'll get the next round up here in a couple.....

Don't worry about your place.....you are still less than 1.0 off. Not bad at all!

[habib]

Round #6

It had to happen.

Finally........A CGC graded CHARLTON to guess!!!! (just for you CG!)

Jetsons #1

Front cover:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b125/kammion/jetsons1a.jpg

Back cover:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b125/kammion/jetsons1ba.jpg

Now guess that grade!

[rowand]

8.0 just cuz I went first! :roll:

[malaprop]

6.5, I never did like soiling. (Or dirt either for that matter)

[SatansProdigy]

7.0

[fulltimer56]

I'm going with 7.5

[Greg]

I am going with an 8.5, this one is kind of a tough one to grade.

[marvelguy]

I agree with Greg, I thought a 8.5 is the grade. The spots has to be glare on the front cover and the back cover looks like glare or dirt, very tricky scanner pic there.

[The Charlton Guy]

Now there's a logo to be proud of...

CGC called this one an 8.0.

(I'd call it a 6.5 at best).

Where's the "Absorene" when you need it?

[chaosus]

It's a 7.5

[jaeldubyoo]

Personally, I don't like soiling. But I think CGC is more lenient on soiling up to NM range as long as it's not heavily soiled. This would be a good candidate for professional cleaning to get a better grade if the owner was so inclined (and unscrupulous). The comic looks very nice otherwise. On a feel-good day I would grade it no higher than 7.5, but I'm guessing CGC would grade it higher. I'm going to go out on a limb and choose a CGC grade of 8.5.

[camper49]

HHHMMMM......

Soiled edge at back cover.
Looks like a slight dust shadow forming around the edge too.
There's a bit of a crease in the upper right corner and what appears to be a spinner rack crease by the upper staple.
Is that a red pen mark on the back cover by the spine?

Still a very sweet book.
I'll stretch this one and go with a VF 8.0

[Gallinator]

Soiling, light spine stress, light surface wear, edge browning and the crease in the URFC!! Maybe CGC actually got this one right and called it a Fine 6.0

[The Charlton Guy]

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/the-charlton-guy/cgc-snore.jpg

[rowand]

Charlton Guy: I give him a 3.0 at best depends on the wrinkles! No fair Slabbing him at CGC!

[habib]

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/the-charlton-guy/cgc-snore.jpg

LOL....OK I get the hint!

Get those last guesses in people I will close down this round tomorrow.

Now you better get over to the "Mystery Comic" game CG and get in a guess!

[mordo]

7.0

[habib]

Time to close down Round #6.

Results:

Camper - 8.0
Greg -8.5
SP - 7.0
Jael - 8.5
Marvelguy - 8.5
Mordo - 7.0
Evil Parsnip -
Chaos - 7.5
Fulltimer - 7.5
CG - 8.0
HH -
Rowand - 8.0
Malaprop - 6.5
Gall - 6.0

And the CGC grade was for the Jetsons #1 was.......

CGC - 8.5

10 CorralCash to be awarded to Greg for hitting the CGC grade 1st! 5 CorralCash go to Jael & MG for also guessing the CGC grade.

Current standings:

1st Jael (.25)
2nd Camper (.33)
2nd Greg (.33)
4th Evil Parsnip (.425)
5th Marvelguy (.48 )
6th CG (.62)
7th Rowand (.7)
8th Chaos (.78 )
9th Mordo (.78 )
10th Fulltimer (.92)
11th SP (.93)
12th Malaprop (.98 )
13th Disneyteddies (1.0)
14th Gall (2.5)

Number in () is the average of how far off of the grade you are. (low numbers here are good!)

Names in red have played all rounds so far!

Next round coming up later..........

A Continued Great Job this game so far to all players!

[habib]

Time for Round #7:

Lets guess the grade for this GA classic!

All-Flash #17

Front Cover:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b125/kammion/af17.jpg

Back Cover:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b125/kammion/af17b.jpg

Good Luck all!

#flashga#

[rowand]

Oh Crud I'm first yet again! 9.0!

#flash#

[camper49]

I'll go with a 6.0

Even though that's a nasty-looking top corner at the spine, the rest of the book is in pretty darn great shape with the odd slight defect thrown in.

[malaprop]

Looks like tears at the staple too. I can't go over 5.0. If I owned it it would be a 9.

[chaosus]

That's the kind of book you want to own. You can actually downgrade it from NM based on the small number of defects. The book has KILLER eye appeal.

Going lower than 7.5 is hammering that book.

7.5 it is then!

Yep 7.5

[SatansProdigy]

8.5

[The Charlton Guy]

8.0 (drool...drool...)

[The Charlton Guy]

8.0 (drool...drool...)

I should say, I would call it a 6.0 or 6.5 or so, counting on some interior page degradation along with the visible cover flaws.

But CGC has a serious bias towards high-mid-grade GA books (particularly if they are Heritage bound), thus my 8.0.

[The Charlton Guy]

8.0 (drool...drool...)

I should say, I would call it a 6.0 or 6.5 or so, counting on some interior page degradation along with the visible cover flaws.

But CGC has a serious bias towards high-mid-grade GA books (particularly if they are Heritage bound), thus my 8.0.

Can I quote myself just one more time? Huh? :P

[rowand]

Permission has been hereby granted for you to Quote yourself but only until you need glasses!

#rockon# #rockon# #rockon# #rockon#

[Greg]

Wow, I got two right in a row. I guess my secret chaos formula works. Wall Street here I come!

For this one I was thinking a 6.0 but Camper beat me there, so I am going with a 6.5.

[fulltimer56]

I'm going with 8.0 too!

[jaeldubyoo]

That's a pretty serious ding on the upper spine. Otherwise it's pretty solid for a GA book. Like CG points out, CGC fudges a bit on GA books. I think I'll go with a CGC grade of 7.0.

[habib]

OK, folks......get those last guesses in.

I will be closing out this round tomorrow night or Mon Morning.

[marvelguy]

I'm sticking with 7.5. My first guess was a 8 until I got closer to the scan and changed my Fling Judgment of the Book.

[mordo]

7.0

[The Charlton Guy]

I will be closing out this round tomorrow night or Mon Morning.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/the-charlton-guy/rolleyes.gif

[marvelguy]

:roll:

[The Charlton Guy]

:lol:

(Co. Twitchylips Productions, 2006)

[habib]

Time to close down Round #7.

Results:

Camper - 6.0
Greg -6.5
SP - 8.5
Jael - 7.0
Marvelguy - 7.5
Mordo - 7.0
Evil Parsnip -
Chaos - 7.5
Fulltimer - 8.0
CG - 8.0
HH -
Rowand - 9.0
Malaprop - 5.0
Gall -

And the CGC grade was for the All-Flash #17 was.......

CGC - 6.5

10 CorralCash to be awarded to Greg for hitting the CGC grade!.

Current standings:

1st Greg (.29)
1st Jael (.29)
3rd Camper (.36)
4th Evil Parsnip (.425)
5th Marvelguy (.56 )
6th CG (.74)
6th Mordo (.74 )
8th Chaos (.81 )
9th Rowand (1.0)
9th Fulltimer (1.0)
9th Disneyteddies (1.0)
12th Malaprop (1.07 )
13th SP (1.09)
14th Gall (2.5)

Number in () is the average of how far off of the grade you are. (low numbers here are good!)

Names in red have played all rounds so far!

Next round coming up later..........

[marvelguy]

Ouch! :shock:

[SatansProdigy]

YES! I'm last fot those that have done all rounds! :P

[The Charlton Guy]

And the CGC grade was for the All-Flash #17 was.......

CGC - 6.5



Hmmph...that one must have been submitted from Hoboken instead of Heritage...

I hope you will notice that MY choice of grade was a 6.5 also...

Is it just me or is this one of the number one problems with CGC?

CGC'd GA books like this are such a crap-shoot...

Congratulations Greg! Good eye! http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/the-charlton-guy/rolleyes.gif

[rowand]

Holy Mother of Crud! It actually MIGHT really BE a 6.5

Was Fling, the Wonder GCC Grading Monkey on a pottie break when this comic was graded???

Well done Greg. You are now the least likely of us to ever get work at Slab'em Central!

[habib]

Round #8

This round's for you Linda (I know you love your Conans)!

Giant-Size Conan #1

Front Cover

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b125/kammion/conangs1.jpg

Back Cover

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b125/kammion/conangs1b.jpg

Time for those guesses folk. Start Grading!!!

[rowand]

9.4 and a great big barbarian hug!

[camper49]

Since there are 2 in the CGC census at 9.8 (is that cheating?), I'll go on a limb (Fling's limb) and say 9.8

I see NOTHING wrong with this book....other than it's stuck in a slab.

[SatansProdigy]

9.6

[The Charlton Guy]

That is a shining beauty of a book.

I'll go 9.9

[jaeldubyoo]

Wow! The corners on that are so sharp you could use it as a weapon. And the colors are nice, especially the blinding white. Looks almost flawless. Gotta be a 9.8. Maybe higher but how can you grade an ultra-high grade comic from a scan? When you have such a nice comic, it becomes a crapshoot when you send it into CGC.

[Greg]

Well, I am going to go with a 9.2. It is pretty pristine, but the bottom corner looks a little dinged to me.


And WOW, I am on a roll, but that can not last forever. My method is to take what I think it is, lower that by 1.5, then put that into percentage. Then for every leap year it has been around I add 0.2, then multiply by 100. Then subtract 0.4 for each degree the thermostat says about the original grade. Simple really!

[camper49]

:-D

Yeah that makes sense, GREG!
That's also what Fling does :wink:

[rowand]

OK Greg! Do you count 2000 as a leap year or not?

Missed the part about the thermostsat though!

[Greg]

OK Greg! Do you count 2000 as a leap year or not?

Only on even numbered months.



Missed the part about the thermostsat though!

Me too, buy that point I had confused myself as to what my method was, so I let my pet monkey finish describing it.

Edited:
Because I typed with an Irish accent for some reason.

[rowand]

Begora!

[marvelguy]

I got a pet monkey that flips coins for me. When I say, "Flip it, Fling" he flips it and if it's heads, he smacks his face. If it's tails, he smacks his bottom. In this case, heads is 9.8, tails is 9.6. Fling says it's 9.8. I give him some dog biscuits for the flips he has done.

[malaprop]

9.6. Good news is I don't think I can possibly miss this one by more than a full point again.

[fulltimer56]

Thank you, habib!! That is one NICE book and wish I had it!! #angelic#

I would also have to go with a 9.6 on that one but it just might turn out to be one of the 9.8's out there!

Linda

[habib]

This is going to be a long round folks so you have plenty of time to get some more guesses in!

Lets have some new graders this round.

See you all late next week with a new round!

[fulltimer56]

Where are you going, habib?

[habib]

I will be at the Heroes Con in Charlotte NC this weekend and then meet my wife for a few days in DC next week.

She is demonstrating Native American Rivercane Basketweaving at the Simthsonian for two weeks.

Now I'm off to sleep so that I may get up early for the 10-11 hour drive!

[rowand]

Tres Cool! My mother-in-law is a collector of all things Native American. She has a world class collection of American Turquoise from the natural state up through large finished pieces.

Come too think of it, I should have treated her better around the time she made out her will!

[chaosus]

After a book hit's 9.4 everything else becomes a bonus for me.

That book is an easy 9.4 (from almost the first glance).

I'll call it a 9.8 just to have people try to downgrade it for some microscopic reason.

Yep 9.8

Gary

[mordo]

9.2

[fulltimer56]

Hi habib,

Are you home yet? When are you going to tell everyone what the real grade is?

Hello, anyone there??? :?:

Linda #shehulk#

[marvelguy]

I guess he's still sercretly in DC meeting up with CIA agents about what's the next course of action regarding CGC comics.

[habib]

OK.....I'm back!

Time to close down Round #8.

Results:

Camper - 9.8
Greg -9.2
SP - 9.6
Jael - 9.8
Marvelguy - 9.8
Mordo - 9.2
Evil Parsnip -
Chaos - 9.8
Fulltimer - 9.6
CG - 9.9
HH -
Rowand - 9.4
Malaprop - 9.6
Gall -

And the CGC grade was for the Giant-Size Conan #1 was.......

CGC - 9.0

I don't know what was wrong with it but that was the grade. 10 CorralCash to be awarded to Greg for being closest the CGC grade 1st and 5 CC to Mordo for guessing the same grade 2nd!.

Current standings:

1st Greg (.275)
2nd Jael (.35)
3rd Camper (.41)
4th Evil Parsnip (.425)
5th Marvelguy (.5875 )
6th Mordo (.675 )
7th CG (.7625)
8th Chaos (.8125 )
9th Rowand (.914)
10th Fulltimer (.95)
11th Disneyteddies (1.0)
11th Malaprop (1.0 )
13th SP (1.025)
14th Gall (2.5)

Number in () is the average of how far off of the grade you are. (low numbers here are good!)

Names in red have played all rounds so far!

Next round coming up later..........

[fulltimer56]

Hi habib,

When you told me that the Conan #1 was only a 9.0 at the con I couldn't believe it. I even went back and checked it out again and I just can't see where they get off say that it is only a 9.0. I bet it would had got a higher number if it was one that the BIG GUYS had sent in! :x It most likely was sent in by someone like us (Little Guys) to be graded!!

Linda

[jaeldubyoo]

I suppose I shouldn't be surprised, but I am. Judging a comic from scans is an inexact science. I'd loved to see the graders' notes on that one. I have one that I always felt would be a 9.0-9.2 with sharp corners, nice color and white pages. But it doesn't look as good as those scans. I think it's also hard to grade because it is square-bound and you can't see the production quality along the side.

[habib]

Two rounds to go before we crown the grading champion!

Round #9

Adventure Comics #84

Front cover:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b125/kammion/advent84.jpg

Back cover:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b125/kammion/advent84b.jpg

OK.....let's guess that grade!

[camper49]

CGC gave this one a 5.0.

At least that's what I think Fling, the CGC grading monkey would have given it.

[SatansProdigy]

4.5

[chaosus]

I can't go lower than a 7.0

That's a major pretty book. Page quality is very low which is what hurts the grade quite a bit.

I am so prepared to be wrong about this one it's not funny.

Gary

[Greg]

It is probably going to be a little lower than this, but I am afraid to go too low. I am going to follow Camper's lead and add a little:

5.5

[marvelguy]

Fling flips that special coin for me deciding between a 5.5 and 6.5. He says a 5.5 is what the book grades at.

5.5

[malaprop]

Is it in tact? Are the pages subtle? Never mind, it's a 6.0.

[fulltimer56]

I'm going with a 6.5

[The Charlton Guy]

Fling flung a 4.0

[mordo]

6.5

[jaeldubyoo]

4.5

[habib]

Anyone else??

Get those last guesses in. I will be closing out this round tomorrow morning sometime.

[habib]

Time to close down Round #9.

Results:

Camper - 5.0
Greg -5.5
SP - 4.5
Jael - 4.5
Marvelguy - 5.5
Mordo - 6.5
Evil Parsnip -
Chaos - 7.0
Fulltimer - 6.5
CG - 4.0
HH -
Rowand -
Malaprop - 6.0
Gall -

And the CGC grade was for the Adventure Comics #84 was.......

CGC - 3.5

10 CorralCash to be awarded to CG for being closest the CGC grade.

Current standings:

1st Jael (.422)
2nd Evil Parsnip (.425)
3rd Greg (.467)
4th Camper (.53)
5th CG (.733)
6th Marvelguy (.744 )
7th Rowand (.914)
8th Mordo (.933 )
9th Disneyteddies (1.0)
10th SP (1.022)
11th Chaos (1.11)
12th Fulltimer (1.178)
13th Malaprop (1.1875)
14th Gall (2.5)

Number in () is the average of how far off of the grade you are. (low numbers here are good!)

Names in red have played all rounds so far!

Last round will probably be late Sunday or Monday morning (unless I can sneak it in tonight)..........

[Greg]

DOH! I blew my lead. Maybe I can make it up with this last round.

[habib]

OK....I found the time to get the last round ready.

Round #10

Guess the CGC grade on this one......

Tales of the Unexpected #15

Front cover:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b125/kammion/tales15.jpg

Back cover:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b125/kammion/tales15b.jpg

OK....let's get to grading!

[marvelguy]

Wow! Nice book there, Habib. I'll say a 9.0 for it. Not much wrong to see it here.

[bolt_boy]

That is a nice book! I'm coming in at the end of the game, but I'm going to say that it's 8.5.

-Ben

[SatansProdigy]

8.0

[fulltimer56]

I'm going with 7.5. It might grade higher!

Linda

[mordo]

9.0

[jaeldubyoo]

I'm going to be conservative like Linda and call it a 7.5. I see little problems with the corners and some color-breaking creases on the spine (although they are small). Is that a dust shadow on the back cover?Having been burned on the Giant-size Conan, I'll curb my enthusiasm for a higher grade.

[camper49]

I'll pipe in with a solid 7.0.
Some problems for sure but not huge problems.

[Greg]

Since this is the last round I am going to guess conservativly and say an 8.0, because it could very well go higher or lower depending on the mood of the grader.

[chaosus]

Let's see...

2:00 AM, Can't Sleep.

30+ years collecting...

Looking at my grading track record for this game...

Looks at last book I graded... Only off a tiny bit on that one :wink:

This one is a 5.0

Yep it's a 5.0

Gary

[malaprop]

8.5

[habib]

Let's get those last guesses in folks (yeah I'm talking to you CG :wink: )

Final results in a day or so......

[The Charlton Guy]

Zzzzzzzz....

Zzzzzzz.....

Cough...fart...coffee...

Oh crap!

Busy week!

I'll go with a 6.0...

O.K., back to work...

Zzzzzzz....

Zzzzzzz....

Cough again...fart again...

Zzzzzzzz....

[habib]

Time to close down Round #10.

Results:

Camper - 7.0
Greg -8.0
SP - 8.0
Jael - 7.5
Marvelguy - 9.0
Mordo - 9.0
Evil Parsnip -
Chaos - 5.0
Fulltimer - 7.5
CG - 6.0
HH -
Rowand -
Malaprop - 8.5
Gall -
Bolt - 8.5

And the CGC grade was for the Tales of the Unexpected #15 was.......

CGC - 7.0

10 CorralCash to be awarded to Camper for hitting the CGC grade.

Final Standings (over 5 rounds played):

1st Jael (.43)
2nd Camper (.48 )
3rd Greg (.52)
4th CG (.76)
5th Marvelguy (.87)
6th Rowand (.914)
7th SP (1.02)
8th Mordo (1.04)
9th Fulltimer (1.11)
10th Chaos (1.2)
11th Malaprop (1.22)

Final Standings (Less than 5 rounds played):

1st Evil Parsnip (.425)
2nd Disneyteddies (1.0)
3rd Bolt (1.5)
4th Gall (2.5)

Number in () is the average of how far off of the grade you are. (low numbers here are good!)

Names in red have played all rounds!

Jael is crowned the Winner and new grading Champion!!!

Prizes to be awarded soon.....

[fulltimer56]

Well, at least I wasn't in last place!! :lol:

[habib]

Prizes:

Everyone who played all 10 rounds this "Guess the Grade - Part 5" will receive 25 CorralCash!

Congrats go to:

Camper
Greg
SP
Jael
MG
Mordo
Chaos
Linda
CG

Jael for his grading victory will receive a bonus of 75 additional CorralCash for a total of 100!

Jael also wins these 3 comics.....

Alien Worlds #8

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b125/kammion/aw8.jpg

Alien Worlds #9

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b125/kammion/aw9.jpg

&

Flashback #37 (1976) reprint of Captain Midnight #1

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b125/kammion/cm1.jpg

Great job Jael! Congrats on the win!

[The Charlton Guy]

#clap# #clap# #clap# #clap# #clap#

Congratulations Jaelbubya...Jaelbudyou...JAELDUBYOO!!!

Sheesh...my aixelsid is getting the tsrow of me...

And thanks Habib! That was a very fun Round!

[marvelguy]

Congrats Jael! Awesome stuff there. I won some Alien Worlds comics on Ebay, it should be here any day.

[jaeldubyoo]

Thanks.

I am one with Fling.

I guess the Vulcan mindmeld worked. I thought like Fling. But I have this craving for bananas. #banana1# #banana2# #banana1#

Those comics look cool. Thanks, Habib!

[SatansProdigy]

Way to go Fli....errr I mean jae! :wink:

[marvelguy]

Exactly, what is that thing on Captain Midnight"s knees? The name alone is the envy of the porn world. :roll:

[Greg]

Congratulations!

[malaprop]

Wait a minute, PROTEST! PROTEST! I was safely in second to last place after round 9, and somehow I'm now in last in the main category just because Gallinator went missing? I demand an official inquiry.

One good thing is that if I ever sell him more comics, I now have documentation that any comic I send him is actually 2 grades higher than he thinks it is.

[fulltimer56]

Hi habib,

Are we going to play another round?

Linda

[habib]

Hey Linda,

Been on vacation in Northern Michigan for a week! Just got in a little bit ago.

I will probably start a new round Sun or Mon. Got a big party going on here Sat (wife's 40th B-day party) and will be getting ready for that tomorrow.

(over 200 posts to read since I have been gone.....I got lots of reading to do tonight!)

[fulltimer56]

I hope we are going to get to see some great pics from your vacation? Tell you wife I said Happy Birthday and that 40 is a GREAT age! I should know since I pass it 10 years ago!! :cool:

Linda

[mordo]

Congratulations, jaeldubyoo! #cheers#


habib, thanks for the game! I'm proud of myself that I was able to play all 10 rounds. Last time around I think I missed a few.

[habib]

habib, thanks for the game! I'm proud of myself that I was able to play all 10 rounds. Last time around I think I missed a few.

You are welcome mordo! Thanks for playing!

I was going to try to start a new game this week but it will have to wait until next since I am going to Chicago tomorrow to set up at the Wizard World Comic Con.

See you next week....

[fulltimer56]

Hi habib,

When does school start in your neck of the woods? The schools here in Griffin started up today!

Linda